NutPuncher Maste-Great Battle

[Nutpuncher]

Update.

Hello fellow Brothers from so many mothers. I have been MIA for the last few weeks due to an unplanned family crisis. I am slowly going thru my messges and will return yours as soon as I can..so in couple days I'll be all caught up. I have not lifted anything since 11/15 and holy shit. I've lost so much definition. I look like I did 6 months ago. Holy shit....talk about use it or lose it. So brothers, don't lose it...use it.

I will put this log on pause. In the meantime, I will get my ass back in shape. So my current goal is to get my physique back...wasn't much, but it only possible because of hard work...and yes, hard work does pay off. It really does. I spent the last 19 days dying and on the 20th day which is today, I mark the end of the toughest battle I've ever encountered. I feel like the struggle to get clean after 10+ years of opiate pills is a cake walk compared to what I've thru in the last 20 days. I've never ever in my wildest dream ever thought I would have to fight this fight. In the last 19 days, I was near death. On Thanksgiving day 2016, I was the closest to death as I've ever been. Even in the darkest days of my addiction, I never ever came this close to death. So close that I could smell it and then realized I've that I already did, but too stupid to accept it. I died on November 9th 2016. It took me 19 days to build up enough strength and courage to fight back. Whenever someone attempts to destroy my family, I do not sit on my ass and do nothing. I don't watch shit. I do shit. So I did what I had to do whatever is needed to save my family.

Guess what? I succeeded. I did not relapse when I should have. I did not do anything that could not be undone. I did whatever I had to do to keep my family the way I know it. I fought for what I believe in and won. So Brothers, please listen and never ever give up fighting. NEVER. Not ever do you give up on what you believe in. I believed that in order for my son to succeed in life, he must not follow my addictive footsteps. I will protect him. I will make sure he grows up a safe environment with his mother and father. Why did I succeed? Because I never gave up hope even though it took me 19 days to be strong enough to fight.

 

[Hevi-head]

Well you got my imagination going trying to figure out what happened but I hope all stays well with you and your family.
Welcome back

 

[Nutpuncher]

Well you got my imagination going trying to figure out what happened but I hope all stays well with you and your family.
Welcome back

Hey buddy. yeah its not as exciting as I made it out to be, but I am so proud of myself today. To me, the outcome is more important to me than who or what caused it the trouble.





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First workout today since roughly 2 weeks ago. I am too embarrassed to update a progress pic now because Ive made reverse progress. I look like how I looked many months ago. But I wonder if its just in my head. Oh well, whatever it is, I will not let the physique that I worked so hard for. And its been little over a year since I got my first taste of testosterone. I think I started trt Nov 2015 and my first pin that was more than trt dose in Jan of this year, so gosh, 11 months ago. Heck, I am even more proud of myself that I was able to do something that I've always wanted.which was to put in the needed work to achieve my desired physique at the time that I set up goal up. I didn't get to 175 7-9%bf, but mark this post....I will get to 175 7-9% bf within 1 year from today.

I have my notes from my Kronos Mast Prop I did couple weeks ago [MENTION=637]LordKronos[/MENTION] [MENTION=639]LordKronos2[/MENTION]. I'll get to them and post them. So far I've tried Kronos and [MENTION=698]Sciroxx[/MENTION] mast prop. And to be honest, I can't tell the difference between the two and that is a good thing.

I lifted today and damn that felt so good. I am so surprised how much strength I had left in me. To me this is medium heaving on this lift Slight Incline Bech 185lbs 3x10 and I am surprised that I was still able to do it. I had my 1st pins this morning. Prior was little over 2 weeks ago. Here is a cool experience I just discovered. Has anybody ever tried TNE when their test level has dropped lower than usual? It magnifies all the good things about TNE. It could be due to the fact that I just pinned 1ml Kronos TNE, 24K Pharma 75mg test Prop & 100mg DECA and consumed 75mg [MENTION=800]TITANROIDS[/MENTION] Proviron. Prior to going to gym, I pinned 40mg [MENTION=698]Sciroxx[/MENTION] Somedin IGF-1-DES (20mg in each triceps) and Bam....I forgot about how much PUMP you get from IGF-1.

I will slowly get back to this log as I still have more Mast Prop to compare with.

 

[Sciroxx]

Tks for the constant feedback boss, I'm especially intrigued about the Somedin DES ? u keep running it ? or switched to th Somedin lr3 and use it solely ?

 

[redhaute]

This is my 2nd experience with IGF-1 lr3. 1st was from Omega. Lets just say I didn't experience the same with previous IGF

Hi Brother, can you pls share your protocol for LR3 & DES? I bought from enhanced athlete, I did LR3 post workout , 15 mins after workout and the took my WHEY isolate creatine etc.... did not feel any pump or something special. After 2 weeks I did DES, Preworkout on empty stomach & after bcca + carb drink .... didn't feel any pump at all.


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[Nutpuncher]

Tks for the constant feedback boss, I'm especially intrigued about the Somedin DES ? u keep running it ? or switched to th Somedin lr3 and use it solely ?

Right now I am out of lr3 until pack arrives. I will keep running it. Today was 2nd workout and I was so pleasantly surprised how I looked afterwards. Looking in the mirror I saw a huge difference from 1st return workout. Whats strange is my 1st return workout was chest. My 2nd was delts, biceps and triceps. I didn't see much difference after my 1st return workout. I am happy that I retain as much strength as I have and for my upper body to rebound from 3 weeks of no lifting.

Please see below for a summary of my comments that I just left on @ Sciroxx Somedin-DES Q's and A's thread.

Could it be that I've experienced first hand hyperplasia? Could this be true? Or just muscle memory? Brief background: TRT since Nov 2015 (about 13 months ago). My first mini blast of test started in Jan (about 11 months ago). I've been on 2-3iu HGH since 04/29 (about 7 months ago). Been on Somedin IGF-1 lr3 from 09/19 - 10-21 (slightly more than 4 weeks) Just cracked open 3rd vial Somedin IGF-1 DES, not sure exactly when I started, but had a 3 week no workout and then back on DES for 2nd workout.

Could hyperplasia occur based on the length and combination of HGH and IGF-1 lr3 and 2 vials worth DES? Or its just muscle memory? Whatcha think?

Hi Brother, can you pls share your protocol for LR3 & DES? I bought from enhanced athlete, I did LR3 post workout , 15 mins after workout and the took my WHEY isolate creatine etc.... did not feel any pump or something special. After 2 weeks I did DES, Preworkout on empty stomach & after bcca + carb drink .... didn't feel any pump at all.


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Yeah, I am familiar with that product line. He can be fun and sometimes I learn something new watching his youtube channel. I am afraid to say that I have no clue what are in those. However, I do know where you can get some legit IGF-1 lol. You shouldn't need much lr3 to give you pumps like you never knew was possible. Its not just about the pump.... Its what goes on behind the scene that really counts. I think I only had 1 or 2 days that I had lr3 and DES. I consumed fast acting carbs about an hour prior to workout. DES bilaterally mins prior to lifting (I just go down 11 floors). lr3 as fast as I can after workout and then protein shake and lunch.

 

[Tren2k14]

Right now I am out of lr3 until pack arrives. I will keep running it. Today was 2nd workout and I was so pleasantly surprised how I looked afterwards. Looking in the mirror I saw a huge difference from 1st return workout. Whats strange is my 1st return workout was chest. My 2nd was delts, biceps and triceps. I didn't see much difference after my 1st return workout. I am happy that I retain as much strength as I have and for my upper body to rebound from 3 weeks of no lifting.

Please see below for a summary of my comments that I just left on @ Sciroxx Somedin-DES Q's and A's thread.

Could it be that I've experienced first hand hyperplasia? Could this be true? Or just muscle memory? Brief background: TRT since Nov 2015 (about 13 months ago). My first mini blast of test started in Jan (about 11 months ago). I've been on 2-3iu HGH since 04/29 (about 7 months ago). Been on Somedin IGF-1 lr3 from 09/19 - 10-21 (slightly more than 4 weeks) Just cracked open 3rd vial Somedin IGF-1 DES, not sure exactly when I started, but had a 3 week no workout and then back on DES for 2nd workout.

Could hyperplasia occur based on the length and combination of HGH and IGF-1 lr3 and 2 vials worth DES? Or its just muscle memory? Whatcha think?





Yeah, I am familiar with that product line. He can be fun and sometimes I learn something new watching his youtube channel. I am afraid to say that I have no clue what are in those. However, I do know where you can get some legit IGF-1 lol. You shouldn't need much lr3 to give you pumps like you never knew was possible. Its not just about the pump.... Its what goes on behind the scene that really counts. I think I only had 1 or 2 days that I had lr3 and DES. I consumed fast acting carbs about an hour prior to workout. DES bilaterally mins prior to lifting (I just go down 11 floors). lr3 as fast as I can after workout and then protein shake and lunch.

I would say muscle memory looks how fast Dennis wolf is coming back.


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[Nutpuncher]

I wasn't going to post progress pics because no progress has been made, but I am going to challenge myself to be in better shape that I was prior to my 3 weeks off. And I'll set a reasonable goal.....I'll do it in 4-6 weeks. I honestly believe I have the tools to do so... Current Goal Deadline: 01/12/2017.

Pics taken today after workout (Delts, Biceps & Triceps).

I believe vascuarlity is due to the Proviron I got from [MENTION=800]TITANROIDS[/MENTION]. Day 1 75mg. Day 2 100mg. Today is Day 3 100mg. I will drop down to 50mg AM and 25mg PM in couple days. NOt sure how long I'll be on proviron. I've taken Bayer Proviron before from different source and maybe I changed because I never the other Bayer Proviron looked slightly different and didn't give me this much vascularity. I have some Proviron from DYEL [MENTION=821]Tkasch30[/MENTION] that I'll compare to.

As you can see I didn't loose much mass while taking 3 weeks off. Yes, I am chubbier, but I am ok because I had the best 3 weeks of eating whateva I wanted. I'd rather eat with no worries in the world except to eat more for 3 weeks then to relapse on opiates pills for 3 weeks. But underneath the chub is still a lot of mass...

 

[Nutpuncher]

I would say muscle memory looks how fast Dennis wolf is coming back.


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And I don't think there is a way to know if its one or the other, but I completely agree with you about Dennis wolf. OH well...It was fun to think hyperplasia

 

[Tren2k14]

Don't look at the time off as a set back your body is reset time to push it to its limits it's primed and ready. The response you will get in the next few weeks should be crazy.


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[Nutpuncher]

Don't look at the time off as a set back your body is reset time to push it to its limits it's primed and ready. The response you will get in the next few weeks should be crazy.


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Man, you continue to enlighten me as you just made me see a different outlook. I am looking forward to the next few weeks. What do you think gear wise would be best for me given that I have taken 3 weeks off and now body is primed and wanting more gains. (No Tren for me ever again, too bad acne even with 25mg ED).

As for as diet, I will eat clean, but I am not sure if I should eat at maintenance calories or higher/lower. I guess if my goal is to recomp in 6 weeks, then I should eat at maintenance calories?? Thank you.

(I've had my first pin (2 days ago) since Nov 6th. Pin consisted of 1ml Kronos TNE, non sponsored source 75mg test Prop & from @ CrazySteroids raws100mg DECA and consumed 75mg [MENTION=800]TITANROIDS[/MENTION] Proviron. I plan on pinning 200mg Test Cyp from @crazysteriods raws and 75mg Test Prop tonight. I don't like to be on test prop for too long so I'll pin test prop one more time and stop) Last but not least, I've taken 30-40mcg [MENTION=698]Sciroxx[/MENTION] Somedin IGF-1 DES on both lifting days.)

 

[Sciroxx]

Right now I am out of lr3 until pack arrives. I will keep running it. Today was 2nd workout and I was so pleasantly surprised how I looked afterwards. Looking in the mirror I saw a huge difference from 1st return workout. Whats strange is my 1st return workout was chest. My 2nd was delts, biceps and triceps. I didn't see much difference after my 1st return workout. I am happy that I retain as much strength as I have and for my upper body to rebound from 3 weeks of no lifting.

Please see below for a summary of my comments that I just left on @ Sciroxx Somedin-DES Q's and A's thread.

Could it be that I've experienced first hand hyperplasia? Could this be true? Or just muscle memory? Brief background: TRT since Nov 2015 (about 13 months ago). My first mini blast of test started in Jan (about 11 months ago). I've been on 2-3iu HGH since 04/29 (about 7 months ago). Been on Somedin IGF-1 lr3 from 09/19 - 10-21 (slightly more than 4 weeks) Just cracked open 3rd vial Somedin IGF-1 DES, not sure exactly when I started, but had a 3 week no workout and then back on DES for 2nd workout.

Could hyperplasia occur based on the length and combination of HGH and IGF-1 lr3 and 2 vials worth DES? Or its just muscle memory? Whatcha think?





Yeah, I am familiar with that product line. He can be fun and sometimes I learn something new watching his youtube channel. I am afraid to say that I have no clue what are in those. However, I do know where you can get some legit IGF-1 lol. You shouldn't need much lr3 to give you pumps like you never knew was possible. Its not just about the pump.... Its what goes on behind the scene that really counts. I think I only had 1 or 2 days that I had lr3 and DES. I consumed fast acting carbs about an hour prior to workout. DES bilaterally mins prior to lifting (I just go down 11 floors). lr3 as fast as I can after workout and then protein shake and lunch.

What dosages u run the lr3 ? (sorry if I missed this info)

 

[Nutpuncher]

What dosages u run the lr3 ? (sorry if I missed this info)

20-30 mcg is all that was needed. I only took on workout days, but I was only taking maybe 1 day off per week but usually its no rest days since Jan unless if I went camping then I'd have consecutive rest days. So I'd usually have my next pin prior to half-life. I found that taking before heading to work and lifting about 3-4 hours later was my favorite method of using lr3.... which is one of the beautys of Somedin IGF-1 lr3. I know IGF-1 about way more than the pump, but when your experiencing this type of pump it allows me to focus on mind muscle connection at light controllable weight.

 

[TITANROIDS]

I wasn't going to post progress pics because no progress has been made, but I am going to challenge myself to be in better shape that I was prior to my 3 weeks off. And I'll set a reasonable goal.....I'll do it in 4-6 weeks. I honestly believe I have the tools to do so... Current Goal Deadline: 01/12/2017.

Pics taken today after workout (Delts, Biceps & Triceps).

I believe vascuarlity is due to the Proviron I got from [MENTION=800]TITANROIDS[/MENTION]. Day 1 75mg. Day 2 100mg. Today is Day 3 100mg. I will drop down to 50mg AM and 25mg PM in couple days. NOt sure how long I'll be on proviron. I've taken Bayer Proviron before from different source and maybe I changed because I never the other Bayer Proviron looked slightly different and didn't give me this much vascularity. I have some Proviron from DYEL [MENTION=821]Tkasch30[/MENTION] that I'll compare to.

As you can see I didn't loose much mass while taking 3 weeks off. Yes, I am chubbier, but I am ok because I had the best 3 weeks of eating whateva I wanted. I'd rather eat with no worries in the world except to eat more for 3 weeks then to relapse on opiates pills for 3 weeks. But underneath the chub is still a lot of mass...

Hello friend, I am grateful for the constant support. I want to say that you are looking great and since I think I made a clue of what happened, you must be very careful man it might not end yet(I Itruely hope it is). It was really brave of you to fight back and stand your ground. If you want to talk about it via PM, I am always here. Keep it up friend

 

[redhaute]

Right now I am out of lr3 until pack arrives. I will keep running it. Today was 2nd workout and I was so pleasantly surprised how I looked afterwards. Looking in the mirror I saw a huge difference from 1st return workout. Whats strange is my 1st return workout was chest. My 2nd was delts, biceps and triceps. I didn't see much difference after my 1st return workout. I am happy that I retain as much strength as I have and for my upper body to rebound from 3 weeks of no lifting.

Please see below for a summary of my comments that I just left on @ Sciroxx Somedin-DES Q's and A's thread.

Could it be that I've experienced first hand hyperplasia? Could this be true? Or just muscle memory? Brief background: TRT since Nov 2015 (about 13 months ago). My first mini blast of test started in Jan (about 11 months ago). I've been on 2-3iu HGH since 04/29 (about 7 months ago). Been on Somedin IGF-1 lr3 from 09/19 - 10-21 (slightly more than 4 weeks) Just cracked open 3rd vial Somedin IGF-1 DES, not sure exactly when I started, but had a 3 week no workout and then back on DES for 2nd workout.

Could hyperplasia occur based on the length and combination of HGH and IGF-1 lr3 and 2 vials worth DES? Or its just muscle memory? Whatcha think?





Yeah, I am familiar with that product line. He can be fun and sometimes I learn something new watching his youtube channel. I am afraid to say that I have no clue what are in those. However, I do know where you can get some legit IGF-1 lol. You shouldn't need much lr3 to give you pumps like you never knew was possible. Its not just about the pump.... Its what goes on behind the scene that really counts. I think I only had 1 or 2 days that I had lr3 and DES. I consumed fast acting carbs about an hour prior to workout. DES bilaterally mins prior to lifting (I just go down 11 floors). lr3 as fast as I can after workout and then protein shake and lunch.

Hi Bro, Thanx for sharing your protocol. Pls advise me the legit IGF1 source as you mentioned. I tried Enhanced Athlete but didn't notice any difference though Their DNP was very good..


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[Nutpuncher]

Hello friend, I am grateful for the constant support. I want to say that you are looking great and since I think I made a clue of what happened, you must be very careful man it might not end yet(I Itruely hope it is). It was really brave of you to fight back and stand your ground. If you want to talk about it via PM, I am always here. Keep it up friend

Your welcome brother. I wouldn't be supporting a source that I am not using nor if I am satisfied because that would make me look like a shill. I used to be afraid of saying that I am using a certain source because of fear that folks on the forum I called home would ban me by simply taking my comments as if I was shilling. Not anymore, but I will only support a source if I feel is worth supporting.

Thank you for kind words and reaching out to me (again) as you didn't have to. I do agree that my fight will never be over, but I will fight for my son's against all enemies whether foreign or domestic. I know I sound crazy, but crazy times calls for crazy actions...or just sit on my ass and do nothing...NOT AN OPTION for me.


Question: I was talking to a buddy about how the Proviron I got from you feels way different than the "bayer" proviron I got from a source not on this forum. He said that I probably had fake or low dosed. (Oh shit, I think I traded some here..I'll follow up with member). He also said that he doesn't think proviron could effect me that fast. That he doesn't think proviron can cause increased vascularity in 48hrs. Whats your thought? Am I just experiencing a placebo effect and that I am just as vascular before consuming provirion? I was very surprised to see how vascular I got after taking to me a moderate to high dose of Proviron.

Hi Bro, Thanx for sharing your protocol. Pls advise me the legit IGF1 source as you mentioned. I tried Enhanced Athlete but didn't notice any difference though Their DNP was very good..


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Your welcome. You ask such simple question and easy answer.... [MENTION=698]Sciroxx[/MENTION] has a product line called Somedin IGF-1 which consists of 2 products, lr3 and DES. I have only tried 2 sources IGF-1 and no longer will I ever try a different source's IGF-1...why? Because I honestly believe it doesn't get much better than Somedin. The other source I took up to 120mcg and never felt like how I felt on Somedin IGF-1 lr3,. When I first tried Somedin, I thought Somedin it was packed in 1mg (10000mcg) vials. So I'd add 1ml bac water and thought I was pinning 100mcg and thought how much better Somedin was than the other source.

Then I realized my mis-read and got clarification....and found out that each Somedin are packed with 200mcg per vial. What a sec! Are you telling me that after all the reading I did, that I only need 20mcg instead of +100mcg. Then the light bulb went off... The reason why I can take 20mcg of Somedin IGD-1lr3 is because it is the real IGF-1 lr3. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and say that just because I only need to take 20mcg instead of 120mcg isn't because 1 product is better (purity & quality) than the other. So until I learn otherwise and until someone can prove me wrong, then I will continue to believe this magical potion called Somedin.


Sorry I had to write so much just to say the source's name lol.

 

[Sciroxx]

You made me proud boss yes we always guarantee pharma grade quality, in contrast to other research companies we produce and test the products in our facility to ensure our statements

 

[Nutpuncher]

You made me proud boss yes we always guarantee pharma grade quality, in contrast to other research companies we produce and test the products in our facility to ensure our statements

Thank you. That means a lot and I'll keep it that way.

 

[TITANROIDS]

Your welcome brother. I wouldn't be supporting a source that I am not using nor if I am satisfied because that would make me look like a shill. I used to be afraid of saying that I am using a certain source because of fear that folks on the forum I called home would ban me by simply taking my comments as if I was shilling. Not anymore, but I will only support a source if I feel is worth supporting.

Thank you for kind words and reaching out to me (again) as you didn't have to. I do agree that my fight will never be over, but I will fight for my son's against all enemies whether foreign or domestic. I know I sound crazy, but crazy times calls for crazy actions...or just sit on my ass and do nothing...NOT AN OPTION for me.


Question: I was talking to a buddy about how the Proviron I got from you feels way different than the "bayer" proviron I got from a source not on this forum. He said that I probably had fake or low dosed. (Oh shit, I think I traded some here..I'll follow up with member). He also said that he doesn't think proviron could effect me that fast. That he doesn't think proviron can cause increased vascularity in 48hrs. Whats your thought? Am I just experiencing a placebo effect and that I am just as vascular before consuming provirion? I was very surprised to see how vascular I got after taking to me a moderate to high dose of Proviron.

I know how it feels brother.

A couple of things about Proviron. When you take it on cycle it amplifies the strength of the AAS in some respectable extent. The mechanism is quite simple, only unbound(free) testosterone enters the muscle cells and nature has its ways of not letting us being superhumans(myostatins). Our liver produces SHBG, a protein that bounds to most serum testosterone and therefore makes it inactive. Guess what, Proviron lowers that protein(SHBG) so more testosterone to be free and then bound to the Androgen Receptor in order to enter the muscle cells. Same thing does Var and Winny but with sides. Proviron is virtually side free. Also keep in mind that Proviron will shine on a cut and at low %bf like yours since it also acts as a mild aromatase inactivator. And yes 48hrs are enough to feel that kind of dose, at least with PHARMA Proviron...

 

[redhaute]

Your welcome brother. I wouldn't be supporting a source that I am not using nor if I am satisfied because that would make me look like a shill. I used to be afraid of saying that I am using a certain source because of fear that folks on the forum I called home would ban me by simply taking my comments as if I was shilling. Not anymore, but I will only support a source if I feel is worth supporting.

Thank you for kind words and reaching out to me (again) as you didn't have to. I do agree that my fight will never be over, but I will fight for my son's against all enemies whether foreign or domestic. I know I sound crazy, but crazy times calls for crazy actions...or just sit on my ass and do nothing...NOT AN OPTION for me.


Question: I was talking to a buddy about how the Proviron I got from you feels way different than the "bayer" proviron I got from a source not on this forum. He said that I probably had fake or low dosed. (Oh shit, I think I traded some here..I'll follow up with member). He also said that he doesn't think proviron could effect me that fast. That he doesn't think proviron can cause increased vascularity in 48hrs. Whats your thought? Am I just experiencing a placebo effect and that I am just as vascular before consuming provirion? I was very surprised to see how vascular I got after taking to me a moderate to high dose of Proviron.



Your welcome. You ask such simple question and easy answer.... [MENTION=698]Sciroxx[/MENTION] has a product line called Somedin IGF-1 which consists of 2 products, lr3 and DES. I have only tried 2 sources IGF-1 and no longer will I ever try a different source's IGF-1...why? Because I honestly believe it doesn't get much better than Somedin. The other source I took up to 120mcg and never felt like how I felt on Somedin IGF-1 lr3,. When I first tried Somedin, I thought Somedin it was packed in 1mg (10000mcg) vials. So I'd add 1ml bac water and thought I was pinning 100mcg and thought how much better Somedin was than the other source.

Then I realized my mis-read and got clarification....and found out that each Somedin are packed with 200mcg per vial. What a sec! Are you telling me that after all the reading I did, that I only need 20mcg instead of +100mcg. Then the light bulb went off... The reason why I can take 20mcg of Somedin IGD-1lr3 is because it is the real IGF-1 lr3. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and say that just because I only need to take 20mcg instead of 120mcg isn't because 1 product is better (purity & quality) than the other. So until I learn otherwise and until someone can prove me wrong, then I will continue to believe this magical potion called Somedin.


Sorry I had to write so much just to say the source's name lol.

Thanx big brother for detailed reply, I will make an order now ... Thanx Thanx Thanx


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