xxplosive
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LOL... MM, i believe you have piles of every aas to last you through a zombie apocalypse.
What I am asking is how effective in comparison to good gh is mk-677?
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LOL... MM, i believe you have piles of every aas to last you through a zombie apocalypse.
What I am asking is how effective in comparison to good gh is mk-677?
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Haven't had to go without hgh yet so...
Wife loves MK 12.5mg though.
For a woman it's enough even for a man who is wanting to lean up over time.
It takes time, use it long enough and add 2iu generic ugh later with it...
It's only way. 1iu at time of course though...
That is it... if I use it it will be like above..
Just like @MotorCity!!
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xxplosive
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Sooo...
12.5mg mk677 daily
With T1-2 (otc thyroid supp)
.5mg caber 2x a week
And I can get some solid gh benefits without bloating and being lethargic as fuck?
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Do your research...
We all different u shouldn't need thyroid and I wouldn't add it unless... u were not adjusting after weeks and edema would set in...
That OTC t2 isn't exactly safe and it's being criticized for being OTC... Lol!
U should adjust fine to 12.5mg MK just fine with no thyroid. Use natty stimulator by proper diet for thyroid first.
Just use for long term if using gear be careful with bulkers for bloat, eat diet low in sodium high in potassium.
If it were me I would use
MK 677 at 12.5mg
Test at mod cruise 300wk
Mast at 400wk
Primo or DHB!! At 400-600
This way estro won't contribute to bloat!!
Use adex as needed
Use cabar at 0.25mg to 0.5mg a week but some less sensitive to prolactin. I need cabar with hgh I imagine with MK I would too!!
Use anavar if u like add Proviron if u like add nolva 10mg ed to eod if u choose.
Don't worry about thyroid and just push thru if it becomes an issue bring it up!!!
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Ran Hex for a lil bit now and the Prolactin sides hit me HARD AF. I dont know if ill ever use it again.
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can someone please help me find this in capsule or tablet form I have been patient for years >!>?!!??! i last used it in 2016. thank you brothers in advance
xxplosive
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I believe Direct carries it in cap form.
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I have a supplement brand my local supp shop guy gets. It's kept in back because they putting pressure on it. I can show u a photo of it. I suppose it's ok? Not sure with rules? so maybe I pm it?
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I can handle a couple weeks of bloat... Its the lethargy that would be unacceptable for any amount of time. I struggle with lethargy as it is due to sleep apnea, mk677 was miserable for me mainly bc it was a major drag just to get to the gym. No supp/hormone/etc is gonna help much if it keeps you outta the weight room.
So is it the prolactin overload that causes the lethargy? If so, i can at least combat that with caber and not risk fucking with my thyroid.
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It's thyroid suppression and in turn that causes prolactin...
That is lethergy cause. It's thyroid suppression...
If it's that extreme I would recommend u have t3/t4 on hand and or t4 only too...
Try it again and pull bloods when it hits on TSH and free t4 and t3 but Really TSH and free t4 is all u need to order. Think order is 50-60$ at privatemdlabs.
That is only way u know for sure...
Honesty if it were me.... I would use real hgh if u were gonna mess with thyroid hormones but u are describing Hypo-Thyroid symptoms caused by suppression!!!
Dose of t3 and t4 or t4 is careful to figure out be careful start slow and use as little as possible if u chose to use it.
T4 can take few days for relief a little t3 with it gives relief right away.
Leathery subsides almost immediately for most part and bloat especially edema like in hands clears in a week with relief in days..
It's a precious subject and some don't get this suppression like others and they disagree with its use. But if u are suppressed causing hypo then adding u will just be normal but more or most effient
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1) So if my thyroid is getting suppressed/hypo, that means my gh/igf1 levels are increasing so it's in a way a good sign,correct?
2) If I do go the t3/t4 route, can i just do it for a short period while i adjust to the mk677 or will i have to run it indefinitely?
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To answer that it's person to person different..
For me I worked to 5iu hgh more than once up to 6iu all generics. I use t3/t4 duration and had to get off both..... reasons...
But last time I ran t3/t4 for 5 months, got off and stayed on 5iu hgh... thyroid came back was fine.
Atm I am on 3.3iu. When I go back up to 5-6iu ????? Will see if I need t3 and t4 again
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And yes IGF levels and gh raised will cause lethergy even insulin will cause lethergy.
It's just how it is... it's that when we exceed out natty levels then things get complex.
To grow and have fat loss we need faster metabolism to have nutrients ready to shuttle!!! Like more thyroid with high levels raised. It's many factors when hgh raised or released our t4 quickly converts into t3 then our thyroid or rather our pituatary will get suppressed from all the t3. In turn we will release cortisol and prolactin surrounding hgh release. HGH also mimics prolactin itself!! Prolactin also suppresses thyroid! Cabar....won't stop the hgh mimic of prolactin...
I am not explaining thorough hope u following along!! It's complex.. Tren causes prolactin thru thyroid suppression as well not just cause it's 19nor...
I am not well sharpened as once was. I will research again and get better refreshed but I am on right track trust me!!! Plus there is much more poorly misunderstood about all of this in many studies!!!
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