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[Gymrattt1]

Once you totally understand ketosis and are actually in ketosis with your diet plan your g2g, soon you can start your cycle and add muscle with no fat storage from carbohydrates, if you apply my potassium /sodium ratio to your cycle /keto/ you will also stay full and dry, all of this is an exact science and thats why bodybuilding coaches are so important to their success, most bodybuilders do not have the knowledge to become great, an experienced coach will determine their success. A perfect example is big ramy, a 330 lbs bodybuilder who should be winning every Mr Olympia but his coach doesn't have any clue what he is doing and need to GTFO, ramy comes in soft and flat every show, he has more muscle than anyone but can't get dry enough.

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[Gymrattt1]

I must admit after 20 plus years in the sport I was completely blown away by my results from adding ketosis and steroids, the combination with my advanced cycling techniques allows me to lean bulk like I never thought possible, and allowing me get rid of chicken breast and rice (fuck yea) and allowing me to enjoy eating steaks and other high fat meat and poultry, I never want to see another chicken breast or rice ever, now when I do come out of ketosis I have a meat spaghetti, seafood linguine, or shrimp alfrado penn pasta. Sugar and carbohydrates are evil from a medical perspective in what they do physiology wise to the body, starting with diabetes and ultimately leading to lactic acidosis, poisoning the body from acidity.

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[Gymrattt1]

Found this video on anavar and it's effects on the heart (enlargement) and endothelial dysfunction (excessive plaque build up), confirming the results I see in the CCS coronary calcium score test in my bb patients. This is common among oral Steroids and to a lesser degree injectables, really a major disappointment in such an amazing compound, that's why I only use a compounded injectable version of var only once per year briefly for about 6 weeks, having a CCS scan every 6 months. Making sure to use distilled water and vitamin k2 with propyl- cyclodextrin to help strip the arteries of calcium. I am currently in the process of developing a medication that's made from propyl -cyclodextrin and k2 that will reverse arterial plaque for heart disease patients, unfortunately that won't stop the heart enlargement problem with hgh and heavy oral steroid usage. https://youtu.be/0SQM7DgCJtw

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[Sharks1989]

Just finished Day 3 on keto... Just a few crowns of broccoli are literally all the carbs i had besides the 4g in my whey protein.

So i cant even drink whey protein with a couple grams of sugar in it?

Even with those couple saltine crackers i snuck in last night, couple pickle spears and broccoli, im around like 40g of carbs in 3 days.

This morning was chest day and i didn't feel dog tired, but i didn't feel particularly strong. Strength basically exactly where it left off from my last work out.

Is it not reasonable to expect ANY strength gains on your 7-8th week post cycle?

Did look pretty lean and full in gym despite being 7+ weeks since my last pin.

Should i just be satisfied that im not losing at this point?

Gymrat is very smart about keto. There's several ways to do KETO.
That sugar in your protien drink is counted as carbs. As long as you have 20 or less every day until you're fat adapted you'll be just fine.

Like say hot sausage has like 2 grams of carbs in it plus 2 grams of sugar, that SUGAR is your carbs so it's only 2 grams in that sausage.

If it has fiber in it, you subtract the carbs, minus fiber, and minis sugar ALCOHOL and you'll get net carbs.

Example..... you have protien bar at 20 g carbs, 5 grams fiber, 5 grams sugar alcohol

In that protien bar you actually only have 10 grams of NET carbs. Because fiber and sugar alcohol does not spike insulin.

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[Muscle mechanic]

Gymrat is very smart about keto. There's several ways to do KETO.
That sugar in your protien drink is counted as carbs. As long as you have 20 or less every day until you're fat adapted you'll be just fine.

Like say hot sausage has like 2 grams of carbs in it plus 2 grams of sugar, that SUGAR is your carbs so it's only 2 grams in that sausage.

If it has fiber in it, you subtract the carbs, minus fiber, and minis sugar ALCOHOL and you'll get net carbs.

Example..... you have protien bar at 20 g carbs, 5 grams fiber, 5 grams sugar alcohol

In that protien bar you actually only have 10 grams of NET carbs. Because fiber and sugar alcohol does not spike insulin.

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I can go in and out keto pissing on test stick consuming only 50 grams carbs post workout on 4 workout days cycle to hardy 0 carbs 3 non days with body fat under 8% while on gear, t4 100mcg and hgh 5iu.
Haven't tried without.
I have always been borderline hypoglycemic in I miss a meal I am in trouble though. Now I am speaking of times during cut and metabolism on fire, like right now. I cut carbs and carb cycle and go in and out ketosis but I cannot stay in ketosis too long, I just cannot adjust and when I do I lose too much muscle, my body needs the carbs but I burn fat at very high rate so it's not feesable

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[xxplosive]

I added the video to post 137 watch and take not at the 9:15 point!!! You just started a keto diet and you are not in ketosis yet, remember lean protein causes an insulin spike because it does not have any fat to buffer insulin, whey protein is a 93 on the glycemic index and bacon is a 9, bacon has fat, whey does not, the insulin spike from whey will cause fat storage instantly plus the additional sugar This has to be understood.

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I take 3 fish oil caps with every shake... Should i be taking more?

Ive been eating lots of salami, cheese and red meat... Confident im getting in about 100g of fat at least.

More?

 

[xxplosive]

I must admit after 20 plus years in the sport I was completely blown away by my results from adding ketosis and steroids, the combination with my advanced cycling techniques allows me to lean bulk like I never thought possible, and allowing me get rid of chicken breast and rice (fuck yea) and allowing me to enjoy eating steaks and other high fat meat and poultry, I never want to see another chicken breast or rice ever, now when I do come out of ketosis I have a meat spaghetti, seafood linguine, or shrimp alfrado penn pasta. Sugar and carbohydrates are evil from a medical perspective in what they do physiology wise to the body, starting with diabetes and ultimately leading to lactic acidosis, poisoning the body from acidity.

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So when im going into lean bulk mode, STAY on keto and just up my protein? Is that what you are saying?

And high carb days never or once a week with berberine?

 

[EMPIREMIND]

Thanks bro!, I've been at bb for over 20 years now former NCP USA champion and IFBB pro, when I first learned about the Ketogenic diet I was like SEARIOUSLY I CAN EAT WHAT??, no more dry ass chicken beast and plain rice, thank you God, my wife and I are both cardiologist so we eat pretty good!!

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I have to say after reading your posts I really appreciate you taking your time to actually share the information. I have experienced many of the things you mention with keto, just never had the science to back it up, just trial and error. For instance the thing about protein shakes being high glycemic...

I have a question... I have heard many trainers who reference carbs during training, primarily with insulin. Is it possible if fully fat adapted to do an intra workout shake with carbs and some fast insulin, and still remain in keto?


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[Gymrattt1]

I take 3 fish oil caps with every shake... Should i be taking more?

Ive been eating lots of salami, cheese and red meat... Confident im getting in about 100g of fat at least.

More?

No, that should be fine, I was more concerned about the protein shake containing sugar and the lack of fat, add some eggs or search around for a sugar free protein supplement with fat, but you simply can l eat something that has fat in it when consuming the shake. Problem solved.

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[Sharks1989]

So when im going into lean bulk mode, STAY on keto and just up my protein? Is that what you are saying?

And high carb days never or once a week with berberine?

Yes at least one meal during the week with extremely high amounts of carbs supplementing with berberine is not going to hurt you.

But like we said before you need to be fat adapted so before you start throwing in cheat meals and extra carbs stay strict Keto for at least two to three weeks and then start adding some extra carbs in. My body respond so well I will eat great throughout the week and then say Saturday or Sunday I decide to take an entire day off and eat whatever I want and I test my ketones the next morning and still I am in ketosis. But like I said you need to be strict on keto for a few weeks for your body to adapt to that fat then when you start consuming a lot of glucose in those cheat meals then it's not going to hurt you.

Some people cycle Keto 5 days on two days off. It does work because then you're consistently switching back from glucose to fat, but in my opinion I don't recommend it. There are studies that has been done that it works well, I've done it but the more you consistently switch over having those cheat meals on a constant basis you're more prone to eat bad. So just once or twice a week one meal after your fat adapted then have at it and enjoy a pound of pasta with alfredo. I do this stuff myself.

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[Gymrattt1]

So when im going into lean bulk mode, STAY on keto and just up my protein? Is that what you are saying?

And high carb days never or once a week with berberine?

Once you are fat adapted, come out of ketosis for a day and consume a bunch of carbohydrates with your berberine, I do this once per week. your blood sugar will always stay lowered, then drop back into ketosis and the body will preserve the carbs, Thomas speaks of this in the video I posted above for you.

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[Gymrattt1]

I have to say after reading your posts I really appreciate you taking your time to actually share the information. I have experienced many of the things you mention with keto, just never had the science to back it up, just trial and error. For instance the thing about protein shakes being high glycemic...

I have a question... I have heard many trainers who reference carbs during training, primarily with insulin. Is it possible if fully fat adapted to do an intra workout shake with carbs and some fast insulin, and still remain in keto?


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That is extremely tricky because everyone is different and it will vary from person to person because of the level of insulin resistance. A bb coach will test his clients before they can be treated by performing a blood sugar reading before, during and after the workout and a couple of hours after to determine the level of insulin resistance on each client, then proper protocol can be made. And your very welcome!

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[Gymrattt1]

Also design your workouts around the carbohydrate load Day, for example I load on Sunday and Monday is legs and Tuesday is back, the largest muscles and the smaller muscles are trained as the week progresses while in ketosis.

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[EMPIREMIND]

That is extremely tricky because everyone is different and it will vary from person to person because of the level of insulin resistance. A bb coach will test his clients before they can be treated by performing a blood sugar reading before, during and after the workout and a couple of hours after to determine the level of insulin resistance on each client, then proper protocol can be made. And your very welcome!

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Makes perfect sense


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[EMPIREMIND]

Also design your workouts around the carbohydrate load Day, for example I load on Sunday and Monday is legs and Tuesday is back, the largest muscles and the smaller muscles are trained as the week progresses while in ketosis.

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This makes sense. Do you work out on your load day? Would it make sense to train weak points on the days following the load? I would imagine hitting the larger muscle groups would bring you back into keto faster.


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[Gymrattt1]

This makes sense. Do you work out on your load day? Would it make sense to train weak points on the days following the load? I would imagine hitting the larger muscle groups would bring you back into keto faster.


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No brother my load day is an off day, for myself training the largest body parts after my load day is working great, and in my experience legs and back are the weakest body parts for most bb, I'm trying to lose 8 lbs before may so I'm wanting to be in ketosis most of the time. There is a medical factor involved in this equation, ketosis will reverse 90% of all chronic illnesses and clean up the blood of acids from the sugar and carbohydrates (lactate, acetate, acetlaldahyde, and ethanol) are waste products created by the body burning sugar and refined carbohydrates, which will create a acidic blood and ultimately lactic acidosis. Ketosis will reverse (cleansing the blood), the acid and increase the oxygen in the blood. The body was designed to burn fat not sugar and poisons are created from sugar metabolism and will eventually starve the cells in the body of oxygen causing them to die allowing chronic diseases to take over the body. Dr Schmidt is an expert on lactic acidosis and has many videos on YouTube and are very informative. Here are two on blood poisoning from sugar metabolism a must watch for everyone. https://youtu.be/0YsWKJ0nM7Q
https://youtu.be/VYoj46ifKHw

 

[xxplosive]

No, that should be fine, I was more concerned about the protein shake containing sugar and the lack of fat, add some eggs or search around for a sugar free protein supplement with fat, but you simply can l eat something that has fat in it when consuming the shake. Problem solved.

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I looked at my protein, it's only 2g of sugar per scoop- i take 2 scoops (50g of protein total) in the morning and if i work out, another 2 scoops off cycle, 3 if im on gear.

And broccoli with no sugar dressing is good? I got this Newman's Own Olive Oil & Vinegar dressing with zero sugar and 18g of fat per serving in it.

Or should avoid or keep even things like broccoli to a minimum?

 

[EMPIREMIND]

No brother my load day is an off day, for myself training the largest body parts after my load day is working great, and in my experience legs and back are the weakest body parts for most bb, I'm trying to lose 8 lbs before may so I'm wanting to be in ketosis most of the time. There is a medical factor involved in this equation, ketosis will reverse 90% of all chronic illnesses and clean up the blood of acids from the sugar and carbohydrates (lactate, acetate, acetlaldahyde, and ethanol) are waste products created by the body burning sugar and refined carbohydrates, which will create a acidic blood and ultimately lactic acidosis. Ketosis will reverse (cleansing the blood), the acid and increase the oxygen in the blood. The body was designed to burn fat not sugar and poisons are created from sugar metabolism and will eventually starve the cells in the body of oxygen causing them to die allowing chronic diseases to take over the body. Dr Schmidt is an expert on lactic acidosis and has many videos on YouTube and are very informative. Here are two on blood poisoning from sugar metabolism a must watch for everyone. https://youtu.be/0YsWKJ0nM7Q
https://youtu.be/VYoj46ifKHw

Not to sound funny, but in light of those facts, then why have a load day at all? Metabolic reasons and a hormonal response? Performance reasons? Seems like staying in keto would make more sense for you... at least from a health standpoint.


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[Gymrattt1]

I looked at my protein, it's only 2g of sugar per scoop- i take 2 scoops (50g of protein total) in the morning and if i work out, another 2 scoops off cycle, 3 if im on gear.

And broccoli with no sugar dressing is good? I got this Newman's Own Olive Oil & Vinegar dressing with zero sugar and 18g of fat per serving in it.

Or should avoid or keep even things like broccoli to a minimum?

No my brother!, ketosis is stopping sugar period, carbohydrates convert to glucose (sugar) and store fat, sugar is glucose, if there is sugar in the blood from high protein, carbohydrates or direct sugar intake it don't matter, the body will pull the sugar first because you are glucose adapted, ONLY CAN YOU TAKE IN SMALL AMOUNTS OF SUGAR IS WHEN YOU ARE FAT ADAPTED. ABSOLUTELY NO SUGAR, YOU ARE DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF BEING ON KETOSIS, sugar is the fuel, adding sugar stops the body from burning fat, you are taking in 4000 mg of sugar just from the protein shake alone meaning that you will never get into ketosis, ever because the blood is full of sugar (the fuel), only when you completely change the fuel source and the body will go into ketosis and run on fat as fuel the way its designed to do, you still have not watched the videos I posted for you. Ketosis is the body burning fat, if sugar is present in the blood you are in glucogenisis,if the body is burning sugar the only way to burn stored fat and sugar is with cardio, ketosis on the other hand is the cardio, the Burning of fat as fuel.

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[Gymrattt1]

XX, cutting sugar and carbohydrates your body will get ripped very soon, as long as you are taking in the 4000 mg of sugar your body will be storing fat period and ketosis will never happen Gotta stop the sugar my brother and watch the results.

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