Whats been eating NP

[Nutpuncher]

I will finish this thread later when I have more time....and will be offline for about a month. I'll explain why I asked to step down later because I gots to get me ass to a meeting.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Sorry to hear this NP. I hope your absence will not be long as you will surely be missed. I respect your decision and compliment dignity and and recognition in your choice.

I wish you luck and hope to see ya soon.

 

[Nutpuncher]

about a decade ago, I was addicted to opiate pain killers. I decided enough was enough and went to detox, inpatient, intensive outpatient and outpatient rehab. I don't have any issues with any other drug except opiates. Last Aug I started taking Tianeptine Free Acid and Tianeptine Sodium every so often but I never really felt much from it until last Nov I took 300mg Tia Sodium. Holy shit that felt just like opiate pain killers. Its safe to say I was immediately hooked as soon asI got a taste of my dear old enemy (opiate euphoria). I consumed Tia Sod daily from Nov 2017 to May 15, 2018. On 5/14, I was nearly out and decided not to reorder which I've been doing 2x a week w/ next day air. I realized I've been spending $600 per week and also got tired of dosing every 4hrs so I went cold turkey....

For me, cold turkey off 10g a day of Tia Sod was/is a BIG MISTAKE. I have never felt withdraws that devastating. I had 2 8mg Suboxone Strips and put 1st one under my tongue. 1hr later w/ no relief I put another strip under my tongue. 16mg of suboxone is a big dose and should've greatly helped, BUT IT DIDN'T. I didn't even feel anything from it. Felt worst than combo of opiates, benzos and Adderall. The reason why I think withdraws were so bad is because Tia is a strong anti depressant that boost your serotonin levels and tickles your opiate receptors.....and you shouldn't cold turkey off anti depressants. NO JOKE, I honestly believe I would've committed suicide and murder if I didn't figure out what to do to reduce withdraws. I placed a small order for Tia Sod and it landed next day at 9:06am. I was glad that I didn't need 3-4g. I only needed 500mg to feel better but not 100%.

On 5/17 I saw my old pain doctor who specializes in Addiction and Chemical Dependency. I asked him if he will put me back on opiate maintenance therapy (suboxone) for the rest of my life b/c that may be the only way for me to never relapse. He agreed and sent me to detox next day so he can oversea suboxone induction. He never heard of Tianeptine, but said that most likely the 16mg suboxone coated my opiate receptors but there must be something else going on that caused withdraws, that is scary.

Detox 5/18 and got out 5 days later. I slept for the 1st 3 days. I feel better each day that passes, but will take some time before my mind and body goes back to my crazy normal self. Next step is to go Partial Hospitalization Rehab if my insurance will cover.

I feel my insurance fucked me over when they denied my detox claim because opiates isn't life threatening. Only benzo and alcohol is life threatening. Detox will cost me $1,500 a day out of my pocket. I am working with billing to see if they would take a percentage of that right now.....I am hoping to only pay $5K lol.

My intentions for this thread is to let others know about Tianeptine and what it can do to you if you allow it to. If you read what I wrote and still use Tia to get high, then you are just like me, an addict, but I would hope that everyone learns something from this thread.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Dude. That is an incredible story. I very sorry to hear about the addiction and I have been taken by all that you have gone through. I completely understand your absence and its very respectful why you did what you did. I had a close friend who was on suboxone and tried to ween himself off. Unfortunately the withdrawal symptoms were too much and he ended up in the hospital for about a week.

You are very admirable to share your story and to let others know the dangers of addiction and how it can effect not only you but I'm sure your family as well. I wish you all the best in your recovery and please don't hesitate to post here for additional help, direction and encouragement. I know I can speak for many that there are members that will step in and help guide you if needed.

 

[AlphaGeno]

I got 8 years clean myself for opiates and booze. OD’d in 2010 and almost died. I wanna give a shout out to any of my fellow brothers who rose from the ashes of addiction. We are the strong ones. And the strength I am talking about is the strength that really fucking matters. It shapes a human being. Anyone ever need to chat about some shit, I know I am new to the forum but I’ve been around the block. Just wanna she’s some light, and let y’all know what kind of stand up folks you all are for leaving the hard road.


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[Serpico]

about a decade ago, I was addicted to opiate pain killers. I decided enough was enough and went to detox, inpatient, intensive outpatient and outpatient rehab. I don't have any issues with any other drug except opiates. Last Aug I started taking Tianeptine Free Acid and Tianeptine Sodium every so often but I never really felt much from it until last Nov I took 300mg Tia Sodium. Holy shit that felt just like opiate pain killers. Its safe to say I was immediately hooked as soon asI got a taste of my dear old enemy (opiate euphoria). I consumed Tia Sod daily from Nov 2017 to May 15, 2018. On 5/14, I was nearly out and decided not to reorder which I've been doing 2x a week w/ next day air. I realized I've been spending $600 per week and also got tired of dosing every 4hrs so I went cold turkey....

For me, cold turkey off 10g a day of Tia Sod was/is a BIG MISTAKE. I have never felt withdraws that devastating. I had 2 8mg Suboxone Strips and put 1st one under my tongue. 1hr later w/ no relief I put another strip under my tongue. 16mg of suboxone is a big dose and should've greatly helped, BUT IT DIDN'T. I didn't even feel anything from it. Felt worst than combo of opiates, benzos and Adderall. The reason why I think withdraws were so bad is because Tia is a strong anti depressant that boost your serotonin levels and tickles your opiate receptors.....and you shouldn't cold turkey off anti depressants. NO JOKE, I honestly believe I would've committed suicide and murder if I didn't figure out what to do to reduce withdraws. I placed a small order for Tia Sod and it landed next day at 9:06am. I was glad that I didn't need 3-4g. I only needed 500mg to feel better but not 100%.

On 5/17 I saw my old pain doctor who specializes in Addiction and Chemical Dependency. I asked him if he will put me back on opiate maintenance therapy (suboxone) for the rest of my life b/c that may be the only way for me to never relapse. He agreed and sent me to detox next day so he can oversea suboxone induction. He never heard of Tianeptine, but said that most likely the 16mg suboxone coated my opiate receptors but there must be something else going on that caused withdraws, that is scary.

Detox 5/18 and got out 5 days later. I slept for the 1st 3 days. I feel better each day that passes, but will take some time before my mind and body goes back to my crazy normal self. Next step is to go Partial Hospitalization Rehab if my insurance will cover.

I feel my insurance fucked me over when they denied my detox claim because opiates isn't life threatening. Only benzo and alcohol is life threatening. Detox will cost me $1,500 a day out of my pocket. I am working with billing to see if they would take a percentage of that right now.....I am hoping to only pay $5K lol.

My intentions for this thread is to let others know about Tianeptine and what it can do to you if you allow it to. If you read what I wrote and still use Tia to get high, then you are just like me, an addict, but I would hope that everyone learns something from this thread.

AMAZING....I have been DRUG/ALCOHOL free for about 35 yrs ...and it gets better EVERY DAY .....ESPECIALLY when you on a MENT cycle LOL...and your OLD LADY is a 36 yr old EBONY INSATIABLE SEX GODDESS....LOL.... I am having more FUN than I DID IN MY twenties...GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Serpico

I will never quit. My nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down i will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.”

 

[01dragonslayer]

AMAZING....I have been DRUG/ALCOHOL free for about 35 yrs ...and it gets better EVERY DAY .....ESPECIALLY when you on a MENT cycle LOL...and your OLD LADY is a 36 yr old EBONY INSATIABLE SEX GODDESS....LOL.... I am having more FUN than I DID IN MY twenties...GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Serpico

I will never quit. My nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down i will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.”

Congrats on your many years of sobriety.

 

[Roc]

I hope you stay clean brother!!! I am fighting this demon with my niece as she went down the bad path with H. She’s one year clean but I’m scared about getting that call that she relapsed and overdosed. I don’t know how something can hold you so hard, I just don’t get it and sorry to be harsh but what’s so fun about being out of your mind and passed out?? I’d rather be meth’d up and running around. I would love to hear more about your situation bro. BEST of luck and I really hope you beat it!!

 

[01dragonslayer]

I hope you stay clean brother!!! I am fighting this demon with my niece as she went down the bad path with H. She’s one year clean but I’m scared about getting that call that she relapsed and overdosed. I don’t know how something can hold you so hard, I just don’t get it and sorry to be harsh but what’s so fun about being out of your mind and passed out?? I’d rather be meth’d up and running around. I would love to hear more about your situation bro. BEST of luck and I really hope you beat it!!

Its unfortunate and I wish the best for your niece in her recovery. This is something I see everyday at work and I know how it effects lives and and family members. 10yrs ago it wasn't nearly as bad but now we get emergencies of overdoses daily.....so bad that we have taken in the same patient in the same shift. The heroin epidemic is horrible right now and I have read that there now some European nations that have 'clinics' for addicts where its legal for the user to use. To me thats kinda condoning that its Ok to use. Sometimes I don't understand.

 

[Gman13]

Now I know why u went missing friend! You got yourself better once NP..and I (we) all believe u can do it again! As u have already said, One day at a time and before u know it u will be back to hardcores smart Canna NPorium NP

 

[Pastor]

I have been clean and sober myself for 8 years and i work with drug-addicts that want to get better hit me with a pm ...i can help

 

[01dragonslayer]

I have been clean and sober myself for 8 years and i work with drug-addicts that want to get better hit me with a pm ...i can help

This man's insight is exceptional.

 

[Rc10b4]

Youre a good dude NP. I wish you well in recovery. Takes strength to recognize and go down the road you have. That strength will help you beat it again. I wish you well, and anyone else that suffers from addiction your story may benefit. Respect.

 

[Roc]

Its unfortunate and I wish the best for your niece in her recovery. This is something I see everyday at work and I know how it effects lives and and family members. 10yrs ago it wasn't nearly as bad but now we get emergencies of overdoses daily.....so bad that we have taken in the same patient in the same shift. The heroin epidemic is horrible right now and I have read that there now some European nations that have 'clinics' for addicts where its legal for the user to use. To me thats kinda condoning that its Ok to use. Sometimes I don't understand.

We have one right here in philly!! It’s a safe house where addicts can go and get free needles and shoot up there!! I can’t beleive this is legal

 

[01dragonslayer]

We have one right here in philly!! It’s a safe house where addicts can go and get free needles and shoot up there!! I can’t beleive this is legal

This is exactly what I'm talking about.....allowing users to potentially kill themselves.

The reason why there are so many overdoses these days is because users can never reach that initial first 'high'. Heroin is the most addictive street drug there is....its been shown that you shoot-up one dose your addicted. Users try to reach that first 'high' but can never achieve it causing users to shoot more and/or more often and when shooting more will cause the OD.

Now they start to allow users to use in these 'safe houses'. WTF.....why isn't PEDs/AS legal then?

 

[Roc]

Yea I just think, the USA needs to come down and tighten the fucking rules!! Start killing drug dealers when caught like Europe and China do!! You get caught with coke in China and ur dead!! The problem is we have a law “ war on drugs” but we support bringing that crap in cause it’s a money maker!! So tired of this ass backwards government, that’s why I beat the system anyway I can!!

 

[tmac3t]

about a decade ago, I was addicted to opiate pain killers. I decided enough was enough and went to detox, inpatient, intensive outpatient and outpatient rehab. I don't have any issues with any other drug except opiates. Last Aug I started taking Tianeptine Free Acid and Tianeptine Sodium every so often but I never really felt much from it until last Nov I took 300mg Tia Sodium. Holy shit that felt just like opiate pain killers. Its safe to say I was immediately hooked as soon asI got a taste of my dear old enemy (opiate euphoria). I consumed Tia Sod daily from Nov 2017 to May 15, 2018. On 5/14, I was nearly out and decided not to reorder which I've been doing 2x a week w/ next day air. I realized I've been spending $600 per week and also got tired of dosing every 4hrs so I went cold turkey....

For me, cold turkey off 10g a day of Tia Sod was/is a BIG MISTAKE. I have never felt withdraws that devastating. I had 2 8mg Suboxone Strips and put 1st one under my tongue. 1hr later w/ no relief I put another strip under my tongue. 16mg of suboxone is a big dose and should've greatly helped, BUT IT DIDN'T. I didn't even feel anything from it. Felt worst than combo of opiates, benzos and Adderall. The reason why I think withdraws were so bad is because Tia is a strong anti depressant that boost your serotonin levels and tickles your opiate receptors.....and you shouldn't cold turkey off anti depressants. NO JOKE, I honestly believe I would've committed suicide and murder if I didn't figure out what to do to reduce withdraws. I placed a small order for Tia Sod and it landed next day at 9:06am. I was glad that I didn't need 3-4g. I only needed 500mg to feel better but not 100%.

On 5/17 I saw my old pain doctor who specializes in Addiction and Chemical Dependency. I asked him if he will put me back on opiate maintenance therapy (suboxone) for the rest of my life b/c that may be the only way for me to never relapse. He agreed and sent me to detox next day so he can oversea suboxone induction. He never heard of Tianeptine, but said that most likely the 16mg suboxone coated my opiate receptors but there must be something else going on that caused withdraws, that is scary.

Detox 5/18 and got out 5 days later. I slept for the 1st 3 days. I feel better each day that passes, but will take some time before my mind and body goes back to my crazy normal self. Next step is to go Partial Hospitalization Rehab if my insurance will cover.

I feel my insurance fucked me over when they denied my detox claim because opiates isn't life threatening. Only benzo and alcohol is life threatening. Detox will cost me $1,500 a day out of my pocket. I am working with billing to see if they would take a percentage of that right now.....I am hoping to only pay $5K lol.

My intentions for this thread is to let others know about Tianeptine and what it can do to you if you allow it to. If you read what I wrote and still use Tia to get high, then you are just like me, an addict, but I would hope that everyone learns something from this thread.

dud crazy i hope you all the best and back at what you love soon brother ,,,,been clean and clear 10 years march 4 of this year drinking and chewing and when i would drink with the wrong persons crank and coke would always show up and bamm its crazy been over 10 years but i love the way i feel everyday .i hope the same for you my brother good luck np ......

 

[C587]

Damn my friend I had no clue. I was an opiate addict from 2002-2014.You know my story. No need to share it again. You know what to do to stay clean. It's an hour by hour or minute by minute decision. Either choose life or choose death. You know where to find me if you ever need to talk bro.

 

[drealdeal]

about a decade ago, I was addicted to opiate pain killers. I decided enough was enough and went to detox, inpatient, intensive outpatient and outpatient rehab. I don't have any issues with any other drug except opiates. Last Aug I started taking Tianeptine Free Acid and Tianeptine Sodium every so often but I never really felt much from it until last Nov I took 300mg Tia Sodium. Holy shit that felt just like opiate pain killers. Its safe to say I was immediately hooked as soon asI got a taste of my dear old enemy (opiate euphoria). I consumed Tia Sod daily from Nov 2017 to May 15, 2018. On 5/14, I was nearly out and decided not to reorder which I've been doing 2x a week w/ next day air. I realized I've been spending $600 per week and also got tired of dosing every 4hrs so I went cold turkey....

For me, cold turkey off 10g a day of Tia Sod was/is a BIG MISTAKE. I have never felt withdraws that devastating. I had 2 8mg Suboxone Strips and put 1st one under my tongue. 1hr later w/ no relief I put another strip under my tongue. 16mg of suboxone is a big dose and should've greatly helped, BUT IT DIDN'T. I didn't even feel anything from it. Felt worst than combo of opiates, benzos and Adderall. The reason why I think withdraws were so bad is because Tia is a strong anti depressant that boost your serotonin levels and tickles your opiate receptors.....and you shouldn't cold turkey off anti depressants. NO JOKE, I honestly believe I would've committed suicide and murder if I didn't figure out what to do to reduce withdraws. I placed a small order for Tia Sod and it landed next day at 9:06am. I was glad that I didn't need 3-4g. I only needed 500mg to feel better but not 100%.

On 5/17 I saw my old pain doctor who specializes in Addiction and Chemical Dependency. I asked him if he will put me back on opiate maintenance therapy (suboxone) for the rest of my life b/c that may be the only way for me to never relapse. He agreed and sent me to detox next day so he can oversea suboxone induction. He never heard of Tianeptine, but said that most likely the 16mg suboxone coated my opiate receptors but there must be something else going on that caused withdraws, that is scary.

Detox 5/18 and got out 5 days later. I slept for the 1st 3 days. I feel better each day that passes, but will take some time before my mind and body goes back to my crazy normal self. Next step is to go Partial Hospitalization Rehab if my insurance will cover.

I feel my insurance fucked me over when they denied my detox claim because opiates isn't life threatening. Only benzo and alcohol is life threatening. Detox will cost me $1,500 a day out of my pocket. I am working with billing to see if they would take a percentage of that right now.....I am hoping to only pay $5K lol.

My intentions for this thread is to let others know about Tianeptine and what it can do to you if you allow it to. If you read what I wrote and still use Tia to get high, then you are just like me, an addict, but I would hope that everyone learns something from this thread.

Holy shit bro...go to a methadone clinic, they have suboxone programs and it's way cheaper bro....

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[C587]

Damn just read up on that substance. Palms sweaty and feel a bit nausea now. Crazy how mind fucked we get as addicts. Sounds like some strong stuff.

Saw some guys were using tramadol/Kratom combo to fight withdraws and get off it. Maybe try those meds instead of the sub route. That shits straight poison also.