Tren/Test base on cardio?

[Andrew0409]

So i'm running low test and eq with var to train to fight. I was looking into tren/test base. I tried test base years ago but that was just for lifting. I'm using this combo would get me gassed pretty quickly into my training?

 

[splizzit]

So i'm running low test and eq with var to train to fight. I was looking into tren/test base. I tried test base years ago but that was just for lifting. I'm using this combo would get me gassed pretty quickly into my training?

yes, from my experiences with both tren a (more pronounced) and tren e, I had no cough but an asthmatic like wheeze. AT training suffered. high intensity bagwork etc.


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[HoRRoRT]

Hey Andrew they don't drug test you when you fight?

 

[Andrew0409]

Hey Andrew they don't drug test you when you fight?

Only the top leagues like UFC, OneFC, Bellator, etcs will test really. It's really prevalent in amateur, pro am, and not big organized pro fights. Thats why you see guys go into the UFC or something and suck or under perform when they got to that level on gear. Not that gear makes you more skilled, but def helps a lot getting that pound for pound strength and speed.

 

[HoRRoRT]

Only the top leagues like UFC, OneFC, Bellator, etcs will test really. It's really prevalent in amateur, pro am, and not big organized pro fights. Thats why you see guys go into the UFC or something and suck or under perform when they got to that level on gear. Not that gear makes you more skilled, but def helps a lot getting that pound for pound strength and speed.

So would you say all fighter working there way up to the pro's are all on roids? wouldn't that have a huge impact on your strength and punches when you have to get off and stay off?

 

[Andrew0409]

So would you say all fighter working there way up to the pro's are all on roids? wouldn't that have a huge impact on your strength and punches when you have to get off and stay off?

I don't know about all. But I would a lot. Of course nothing beats skills, reflexes, agility/speed and just natural instinct. But it's something most fighters, unless youre buddies with won't say or admit. And you don't ask. But it's very common.

 

[dutchpharma]

Run cardarine with it to prevent that

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

I am runnin tren now and can say that my cardio is suffering. I have an almost asthmatic type feeling in my lungs shortly after starting a run. If I were to force exertion, I would probably induce some sort of panic because I couldnt take in oxygen as fast as I needed it. I would avoid Tren when fighting. Cardarine should help according to what it is supposed to do but Ive never gotten anything from it.


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[hwntime]

So would you say all fighter working there way up to the pro's are all on roids? wouldn't that have a huge impact on your strength and punches when you have to get off and stay off?

Punching power has nothing to do with strength, it's technique. Skinny scrawny guys like Chuck Liddell would knock guys out like silly because his punching technique created so much torque. He would sleep guys going backwards.

 

[01dragonslayer]

From my expirience with tren I have always gotten spent sooner than the norm but that was with the acetate ester. I have never tried no base.

 

[bigunitny]

yes, from my experiences with both tren a (more pronounced) and tren e, I had no cough but an asthmatic like wheeze. AT training suffered. high intensity bagwork etc.


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At what dosage of tren ?


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[splizzit]

tren a. 75-200 eod ;
when tren e. 200 ew


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[Andrew0409]

So it sounds like the general conciseness is that even tren base should be left to strength training days and not days for conditioning and bag and pad work high intensity work.

 

[bigunitny]

Yup those doses are gonna effect your cardio in a challenging way


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[bigunitny]

Look into using gw-50156 to mitigate cardio negative sides


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[bigunitny]

I think there are doctors out there that can get you by the USADA testing , however a high number of pros do not do it because the stakes are too high now


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[bigunitny]

Speaking of USADA check out the warning they put out about GW-50156


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[Andrew0409]

I think there are doctors out there that can get you by the USADA testing , however a high number of pros do not do it because the stakes are too high now


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Absolutely just like with all sports. I know plenty of pros even use androgel and others and can get their test numbers just under the limit. Any advantage counts in the high stakes of pro sports. Especially cut throats ones when every loss could mean not being able to put off on the table. If you get KOed. You aren't even suppose to spar for 3 months. Let alone fight again in that time period. Think about that. Unless you're a major big name fighter. That rough.
But most won't test for it unless they are a big league like UFC, One FC, Bellator. They don't mind it in fact, the talent is less so it's still an entertainment business. They have no reason to say not to take things that can make you fight better.


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[Andrew0409]

Look into using gw-50156 to mitigate cardio negative sides


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wow, it sounds like something that could take me to the next level. I wonder if it's ever tested? Looking for a source that can ship international to me right now haha

 

[bigunitny]

wow, it sounds like something that could take me to the next level. I wonder if it's ever tested? Looking for a source that can ship international to me right now haha

Read up on it. It was dropped by big pharma after some test lab rats given high doses turned out to develop cancer . USADA issued unprecedented warning to athletes that GW has been studied and they feel it maybe carcinogenic. Many users report no such acute problems but long term we will have to wait and see


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