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Do you take Tren?.
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Do you take Tren?.
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Then again I do feel pretty damn good today. So...
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This past week though I did get a coffee maker and had been making coffee each day. Before that I had only been getting coffee from Dunkin Donuts and Mcdonalds. So I was figuring out how much coffee grounds to add to make coffee at a taste I would like. Thinking that places like DD and McDonald's make it much weaker up until this past week I had been getting good sleep. So I'm thinking it was the coffee,lack of sleep and my mind playing tricks on me because of all the "bad" stuff I read about Tren on the internet. I mean sure, we could all decide that it was this one single injection of Tren that caused this panic attack and anxiety. That would be the easy way and the way I believe today's ignorant society thinks about "the evil steroids!". I'd just rather not.
While I am a generally anxious guy, it's not something that controls my life. Usually I when I start feeling that way I can control my thoughts and know in my head that it's just me freaking out and just forget about it and concentrate on something else. This was different somehow though. It felt like I took Ephedrine. I used to take it quite a bit and stack it with yohimbine hcl and caffeine. It would last about 2 hours, but I'd take it before a run and that would work some of the anxiousness out by the time I was done with my run.
This feeling with this panic attack was like I felt like something was seriously wrong. I could not stand still and my hands were sweating. Like the feeling you would get if you were in a bank and 5 men rushed in wearing masks armed with machine guns. Again, there really was no reason for me to feel like this and thinking about that just drove me crazy.
While I am a generally anxious guy, it's not something that controls my life. Usually I when I start feeling that way I can control my thoughts and know in my head that it's just me freaking out and just forget about it and concentrate on something else. This was different somehow though. It felt like I took Ephedrine. I used to take it quite a bit and stack it with yohimbine hcl and caffeine. It would last about 2 hours, but I'd take it before a run and that would work some of the anxiousness out by the time I was done with my run.
This feeling with this panic attack was like I felt like something was seriously wrong. I could not stand still and my hands were sweating. Like the feeling you would get if you were in a bank and 5 men rushed in wearing masks armed with machine guns. Again, there really was no reason for me to feel like this and thinking about that just drove me crazy.
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Yea seems kinda strange to me since all of your gear was enenthate esters right? Seems like you really shouldn’t be feeling much of anything the first pin. And had it been the oils you should be feeling the anxiety increase over the next few days with the spike right? Seems like a more of a self fulfilled side effect caused by lack of sleep and all the caffeine than a actual side effect. Then again I’ve never taken tren so my outlook on the situation is very limited lol
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What's up bro? Anxiety attack? Glanced over the post, what exactly are you inquiring about?
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Sounds like more of a caffeine induced state. What day/week were you on with the tren?
When I was in the military still I'd get anxiety post last deployment from all the traffic. I'd have to pull over and decompress before going in. I knew it was gonna happen and I was always the first one in an hour before formation so I had time to spare, but Tren never gave me that. Once I retired I mellowed the fuck out. However it's why I opted not to work after retiring as I knew that my hair trigger was always primed to squeeze. My gf says I handle pressure very well and honestly when you're used to falling asleep in go mode and every day dying is a possibility civilian life is a cake walk. I think a lot of ppl anticipate anxiety on Tren and bring it about simply by over thinking it. Implement small counter measures such as walks post work out with some earbuds in and no music, focus on things that bring you pleasure rather than stress. I have one trigger and it's when relatives ask for money. It literally took years for them to comprehend that I don't make money for them. The most stressful thing in my entire world is my crazy ass gf and her European way of thought about things... you'd have to date one to know my challenges. However even with her I just breathe and try to be more mature in my thinking rather than reactive in regards to things. Anxiety is only real if you allow it to be, cognitive thought and awareness is it's best countermeasure... and some primobolan lol... and weed.
When I was in the military still I'd get anxiety post last deployment from all the traffic. I'd have to pull over and decompress before going in. I knew it was gonna happen and I was always the first one in an hour before formation so I had time to spare, but Tren never gave me that. Once I retired I mellowed the fuck out. However it's why I opted not to work after retiring as I knew that my hair trigger was always primed to squeeze. My gf says I handle pressure very well and honestly when you're used to falling asleep in go mode and every day dying is a possibility civilian life is a cake walk. I think a lot of ppl anticipate anxiety on Tren and bring it about simply by over thinking it. Implement small counter measures such as walks post work out with some earbuds in and no music, focus on things that bring you pleasure rather than stress. I have one trigger and it's when relatives ask for money. It literally took years for them to comprehend that I don't make money for them. The most stressful thing in my entire world is my crazy ass gf and her European way of thought about things... you'd have to date one to know my challenges. However even with her I just breathe and try to be more mature in my thinking rather than reactive in regards to things. Anxiety is only real if you allow it to be, cognitive thought and awareness is it's best countermeasure... and some primobolan lol... and weed.
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Yeah, start reading from here on. That'll get you all caught up on what happened. I want to get some opinions as to whether or not this happened to me because of the Tren or any of the other drugs, or that I had not been getting any sleep and had just purchased a new coffee maker and was testing it out trying to get the right strength. Anyway, it's not much to read but it will get you caught up. I thought maybe some guys that have a lot of experience with tren might be able to give me a better idea.
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It was Wednesday night about 5:45 Pm when I did the injection. Within hours I started feeling the anxiety. It didn't make any sense to me why I was freaking out so that in turned made me even more scared. Liked scared that something was about to happen, something crazy scary. I didn't really get any sleep and when I got up on Thanksgiving it hadn't got any better. I just started pacing the floor back and fourth and then starting crying for a bit. After that is when I finally decided to go to the ER to get some help.
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I think that maybe different people metabolize or feel different esters at different rates or something. Maybe some people peak faster than others on the same ester. I don't know though, just a guess. Like I said it doesn't make any sense to me either because yes all enthanate esters. Plus I felt great on TREN base at 100mg and over course that's gonna peak super fast!.
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Hmm maybe. Yea I’ve never used tren so i can’t attest to that but i have dealt with anxiety. Massive amounts of caffeine and sleep deprivation definitely exacerbate my condition heavily. So maybe try getting that under control. I personally use rhodiola and ashwaghanda extracts to help lower cortisol which helps control anxiety and stress so maybe you could look into that too.
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This.
I've also been dealing with anxiety and depression for over a decade now. I can tell you that nothing sets it off quicker than sleep deprivation.
Tren does fuck with my anxiety as well...which is why I can't seem to take it long enough to reap the benefits. I'm going to try it again...very low doses building up to a very moderate dose. Ace only...in quick and out quick.
Anxiety attacks are terrifying man...i understand what you are going through. Chin up...and just know that they only last but so long.
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It was one shot of 100mg of enthanate though so that's what is so strange. That and the fact that 100mg of Tren no ester and I feel amazing for a few hours and than it goes away. Now take that same dose and make it enter the bloodstream really slowly and I freak out?. Yeah I think I may make that follow up with my PCP and get on an anti-anxiety med that's for daily use. Docs have told me to but I always said no because I don't like relying on drugs to keep me sane. I figure I can control my thoughts or concentrate on positive or happy thought and push the negative or paranoid thoughts out.
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I was the idiot that stocked up on this before I knew how it effects me. Just drives me nuts. Who wants to feel like a crazy paranoid lunatic on cycle though?. I like feeling good on cycle like I do on high doses or Trest, Test and also recently Tren base. Life's too short to waste on anxiety and regret.
Ricnixon
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Check out this study about anxiety, androgens, and dht.
http://dacemirror.sci-hub.bz/journal-article/183357c941c8c076ee9162ad1a8812ce/edinger2005.pdf
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I posted the study above which says dht may actually improve it. But looking at the big picture, your health, that study doesn’t mean a whole lot.
Just my opinion, and I’ll probably say what’s already been said, I’m not sure this is tren or one thing specifically. If we did blame tren, I would say it could be the shit sleep that tren gives you that ultimately contributes to anxiety and panic attacks. Add a stim like caffeine and you got yourself a perfect storm if your already prone to these attacks.
I always have Xanax on hand just in case. I never have actually needed to take it, but it comforts me knowing it’s there. Weird I know.
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The thing is I've had similar smaller panic attacks with fat burner and pre-workout supplements. Only on the first day of use though. Like I get scared and anxious whenever I use something new to me. Then the next time I dose it just doesn't happen. No symptoms at all. In fact with a pre-workout I remember numerous times this has happened where I'd take it and be all jittery and freaked out the first day. Then the next time I took it, I just didn't feel anything at all, like it didn't even give me energy. Even having to take an extra scoop and it only giving me limited energy. So this could be the exact same thing.
Either way the only way to find out is to try again and just have medication ready to go.
Either way the only way to find out is to try again and just have medication ready to go.
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Thanks. My anxiety actually goes almost completely away when I'm on high enough doses of testosterone. Funny thing is I also feel great with no anxiety whatsoever after a 100mg dose of Tren no ester. I mean nothing could bother me at all. But I also haven't taken the Tren Base without any test base....
