The Laws of Trenbolone

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This is just a copy and paste of a post I saw somewhere else.


The Laws of Trenbolone

The post below is from a friend of mine by the name of Basskiller written by jimmyjomes.


The Laws of Trenbolone


Trenbolone, as they say..... The Nectar of the Gods! Is by far the most misunderstood drug, in all of bodybuilding history. So many stories out there of the reckless insomnia, the high blood pressure, the hair on your pillow, the brown stinky urine that is reponsibly for your kidneys falling out of your ass. Ill be the first person to tell you that this is 90% horse shit.

Why? Continue reading below.

You see, due to broscience and bible like teachings of steroid use, everyone thought it was only logical to run your Test twice as high as your Tren, you know..to avoid that TREN DICK! Well, it would only seem logical right? God forbid the Tren dosage was as high as your Test, and you might just get called insane or stupid. Well, I too was one that fell into the hole of incorrect teachings. My first time trying Trenbolone, I start out at 150mg per week…150 measly milli****s per week. I coupled it with 500mg Test Enanthate. And I tell ya what…I felt the night sweats, insomnia, the aggression, and the high blood pressure. I felt god ....ing awful. And so there I stopped.




A few months later down the road, I began reading some things on this very forum, all about low Test/ High Tren. Me being a guinea pig, I decided to give Tren one more try. I also had read very deep into Cabergoline. I figured, if im using an anti-estrogen for my Test dosage….why would I not use an anti-prolactin? If you all didn’t know by now, Trenbolone raises prolactin inside the body dramatically after the 4th-5th week. Then, I began reading on prolactin’s effect on the body. And then it all finally clicked correctly in my head.


Tren dick? Deca dick? How can such androgenic drugs, shut down libido so badly, to the point of feeling castrated? Well, I will tell you all, once and for all, why these mythical Tren Dick and Deca Dick situations even occur.

So check me out. After successful sexual intercourse, the male ejaculates. When this occurs, the body spikes the hormone prolactin, which is the signal to let you know you are officially done with copulation. That’s it, youre done. You’ve reached the sex heaven.

So what happens next? Your dick dies. It goes absolutely limp. Because, by human nature, there is no more need for you to pass along your seeds, they are already inside the queen bee.

So what does this all mean? Essentially, it is prolactin causing the problems, NOT the Tren. Yes, of course, the Tren caused the prolactin to rise, but we don’t attack the Tren, we attack the prolactin.

That’s where Cabergoline comes in.

Cabergoline comes in with the dual AK-47’s and blasts prolactin to the floor, never to be heard from again. Now that that’s taken care of, Tren and Deca will NEVER again give you limp noodle dick. EVER.

Now back to the “Low Test” deal, I had read a post some fellow made, about NEVER going above 200mg whenever Tren is in the equation. So I tried it…
I started out again with 50mg Tren Acetate EOD. Coupled with 50mg Test Ace EOD.

2 Weeks in and I began feeling incredible. Strength and size were thru the roof. And I said, damn, is this Test Acetate great and this Tren Ace bunk or someshit? No way, My boy never sends me bunk shit…. What the ....? I don’t feel any sides!

So I bumped the Tren Ace to 100mg EOD. I felt even better…

Then I bumped the Tren Ace to 200mg EOD….

Then 300mg EOD.

And good god, I was the biggest and leanest Ive ever been in my life, all the while running 150mg of Test Ace per week the entire time.
I was on 900mg of Tren Ace per week only for 2 weeks, and then I dropped the drug entirely. But I must state again, never in my life had I felt so amazing. Strength, size, vascularity, sex drive, well being, blood pressure, my god did I feel like a well-lubed high performance machine. I had gained 10lbs of pure size and no water in just 4 weeks. I am NOT telling you to run 900mg of Tren, no I really am not. This is purely for my own experimental reasons. I just wanted to see what would happen, even if I stayed on 150mg Test the entire time.


After this experience, Testosterone is simply a weak and inefficient steroid next to Trenbolone. In my mind, when you couple such a powerful drug like Trenbolone at a moderate to high dosage, with a high dosage of Testosterone, you leave LOTS and LOTS of unbound hormone flowing around mindlessly in your body. Since Trenbolone attaches to the receptor site first, and there is high dosages of Testosterone in the mix as well, its as if Testosterone is roaming the streets looting stores, stealing cars, breaking windows (high blood pressure, insomnia, night sweats).

You know what I say? When Trenbolone is sitting at the front of the table, talking, everyone else shuts their mouths. That’s right. He is the ....ing boss and no one else is above him. Testosterone is like the boss’ bitch. The boss’ bitch is allowed to speak ONLY when the boss is NOT speaking.
What do I mean by that? When Trenbolone is at ANYTIME part of your cycle, test is always below 200mg a week. When Trenbolone comes OUT of the equation, that’s when you may blast Testosterone to the moon.

Final conclusion of my trenbolone story?

1) Always keep prolactin in check when using Trenbolone or Nandrolone
2) Never use more than 200mg of Testosterone per week when using Trenbolone
3) Don’t knock something till you try it. It may change your entire mindset of this game!
4) Bump up Tren nice and slow...and get big and lean as Hell!


Written By jimmyjones
 
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Good info man.

Do you know if this also applies to the anxiety that tren is known to cause? I get horrible anxiety when I run even 200mg of gren/week. Of course I always ran it with 500mg of test as well...
 
I've been planing this cycle...

1/2 ml Tren E 100 mg m,w,f (300mg/wk)
1/4 ml Test E 75mg m,w,f (225mg/wk)Yeah a tiny bit over what's recommended but good enough I think.
1/2 ml Deca 150mg m,f (300mg/wk)
1 ml Mast E 200mg m,w,f (600mg/wk)

Now I could lower the Deca down to 1/4 ml because I included it mainly for the joint benefits. It's just difficult to find the 1/4 mark on the syringe.

So on a 3mL syringe from the first line to the 1/2 ml mark there are 6 lines. The 3rd line down would be 1/4 ml correct?. Same thing with the rest of the markings, yes?

That Mast E will be used to keep or increase strength and DHT derived steroids have always gave me a good sense of well-being and increased libido and strength. It also has an anti-estrogenic effect which will help with some of the aromatization of the testosterone and deca. So it may possible help with the bloat associated with deca also.


Ok so the only thing I'm not sure of at the moment is if 225mg deca per week is enough to be a therapeutic dose to help with joints. I would think so. EDIT: I've looked it up and it seems 225mg should be fine for therapeutic dosage for joint benefits and pain relief. Edit:It'll be 300mg per week instead.
 
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Good info man.

Do you know if this also applies to the anxiety that tren is known to cause? I get horrible anxiety when I run even 200mg of gren/week. Of course I always ran it with 500mg of test as well...

I would think so. I'm no expert though. It's just a copy and paste because I've been thinking about running tren for over a year now, this was just one of things I've read about it. I know "Basskiller" has been around forever so I'm gonna put my trust in this article. Credit for this article should go to "Basskiller".
 
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No wait. I think I'm gonna do 1/2ml Deca just on Monday and Friday. That will be less of a pain in the ass.

1/2 mL tren E(100mg) M,W,F

1/4 mL Test E (75mg) M,W,F

1/2 mL Deca (150mg) M,F

1 mL Mast E (200mg) M,W,F


Trying to figure out the math here. So it would be 2.25ml on Monday and Friday. On Wednesdays it would be 1.75ml.
 
Alright post #5 is what I'm going with. Gonna start next week possibly.
 
Wish i could pin tren e. Definitely gonna feel like a pin cushion pinning ed or eod lol but ppl recommend ace for your first time to assess sides so I’ll just follow that. If everything goes good I’ll definitely be hitting e next time.


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Wish i could pin tren e. Definitely gonna feel like a pin cushion pinning ed or eod lol but ppl recommend ace for your first time to assess sides so I’ll just follow that. If everything goes good I’ll definitely be hitting e next time.


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Sure I know "they" recommend ace for the first time. That's just kind of silly though. You are gonna get more side effects from Ace because the drug will hit you faster and you'll achieve a higher peak plasma concentration. Not to mention you'll be injecting more which will further increase the peak blood concentration levels. Sure it'll exit your system faster when you get the sides, but I'd rather avoid the side effects in the first place or lower my chances of getting them and if I do get them they will be less intense.
 
No wait. I think I'm gonna do 1/2ml Deca just on Monday and Friday. That will be less of a pain in the ass.

1/2 mL tren E(100mg) M,W,F

1/4 mL Test E (75mg) M,W,F

1/2 mL Deca (150mg) M,F

1 mL Mast E (200mg) M,W,F


Trying to figure out the math here. So it would be 2.25ml on Monday and Friday. On Wednesdays it would be 1.75ml.

Just make sure you have Caber on hand (in the event there is a prolactin Issue with the Deca and TREN ), both staying in your system for longer , they " may" arise at an unpredictable time, and "may" not at all.

But best to be prepared.

Haven't yet combined the two, just for that reason, but have heard and seen cycles laid out where the guy's have raved about the gainz. Just might throw in some TrenE myself, it's just that I'm on enuff as is, but as I stated b4 i
Am getting a little more adventurous these days.

Compared to yesteryear..!

MotorCity
 
Just make sure you have Caber on hand (in the event there is a prolactin Issue with the Deca and TREN ), both staying in your system for longer , they " may" arise at an unpredictable time, and "may" not at all.

But best to be prepared.

Haven't yet combined the two, just for that reason, but have heard and seen cycles laid out where the guy's have raved about the gainz. Just might throw in some TrenE myself, it's just that I'm on enuff as is, but as I stated b4 i
Am getting a little more adventurous these days.

Compared to yesteryear..!

MotorCity


Yeah but those doses are pretty low so I don't think it'll be bad. I do have 2 bottles of Caber from D though, just in case.
 
Maybe I just run the caber from the start?. 1/4 of a tablet every Monday and Friday?. Or no?
 
This is just a copy and paste of a post I saw somewhere else.


The Laws of Trenbolone

The post below is from a friend of mine by the name of Basskiller written by jimmyjomes.


The Laws of Trenbolone


Trenbolone, as they say..... The Nectar of the Gods! Is by far the most misunderstood drug, in all of bodybuilding history. So many stories out there of the reckless insomnia, the high blood pressure, the hair on your pillow, the brown stinky urine that is reponsibly for your kidneys falling out of your ass. Ill be the first person to tell you that this is 90% horse shit.

Why? Continue reading below.

You see, due to broscience and bible like teachings of steroid use, everyone thought it was only logical to run your Test twice as high as your Tren, you know..to avoid that TREN DICK! Well, it would only seem logical right? God forbid the Tren dosage was as high as your Test, and you might just get called insane or stupid. Well, I too was one that fell into the hole of incorrect teachings. My first time trying Trenbolone, I start out at 150mg per week…150 measly milli****s per week. I coupled it with 500mg Test Enanthate. And I tell ya what…I felt the night sweats, insomnia, the aggression, and the high blood pressure. I felt god ....ing awful. And so there I stopped.




A few months later down the road, I began reading some things on this very forum, all about low Test/ High Tren. Me being a guinea pig, I decided to give Tren one more try. I also had read very deep into Cabergoline. I figured, if im using an anti-estrogen for my Test dosage….why would I not use an anti-prolactin? If you all didn’t know by now, Trenbolone raises prolactin inside the body dramatically after the 4th-5th week. Then, I began reading on prolactin’s effect on the body. And then it all finally clicked correctly in my head.


Tren dick? Deca dick? How can such androgenic drugs, shut down libido so badly, to the point of feeling castrated? Well, I will tell you all, once and for all, why these mythical Tren Dick and Deca Dick situations even occur.

So check me out. After successful sexual intercourse, the male ejaculates. When this occurs, the body spikes the hormone prolactin, which is the signal to let you know you are officially done with copulation. That’s it, youre done. You’ve reached the sex heaven.

So what happens next? Your dick dies. It goes absolutely limp. Because, by human nature, there is no more need for you to pass along your seeds, they are already inside the queen bee.

So what does this all mean? Essentially, it is prolactin causing the problems, NOT the Tren. Yes, of course, the Tren caused the prolactin to rise, but we don’t attack the Tren, we attack the prolactin.

That’s where Cabergoline comes in.

Cabergoline comes in with the dual AK-47’s and blasts prolactin to the floor, never to be heard from again. Now that that’s taken care of, Tren and Deca will NEVER again give you limp noodle dick. EVER.

Now back to the “Low Test” deal, I had read a post some fellow made, about NEVER going above 200mg whenever Tren is in the equation. So I tried it…
I started out again with 50mg Tren Acetate EOD. Coupled with 50mg Test Ace EOD.

2 Weeks in and I began feeling incredible. Strength and size were thru the roof. And I said, damn, is this Test Acetate great and this Tren Ace bunk or someshit? No way, My boy never sends me bunk shit…. What the ....? I don’t feel any sides!

So I bumped the Tren Ace to 100mg EOD. I felt even better…

Then I bumped the Tren Ace to 200mg EOD….

Then 300mg EOD.

And good god, I was the biggest and leanest Ive ever been in my life, all the while running 150mg of Test Ace per week the entire time.
I was on 900mg of Tren Ace per week only for 2 weeks, and then I dropped the drug entirely. But I must state again, never in my life had I felt so amazing. Strength, size, vascularity, sex drive, well being, blood pressure, my god did I feel like a well-lubed high performance machine. I had gained 10lbs of pure size and no water in just 4 weeks. I am NOT telling you to run 900mg of Tren, no I really am not. This is purely for my own experimental reasons. I just wanted to see what would happen, even if I stayed on 150mg Test the entire time.


After this experience, Testosterone is simply a weak and inefficient steroid next to Trenbolone. In my mind, when you couple such a powerful drug like Trenbolone at a moderate to high dosage, with a high dosage of Testosterone, you leave LOTS and LOTS of unbound hormone flowing around mindlessly in your body. Since Trenbolone attaches to the receptor site first, and there is high dosages of Testosterone in the mix as well, its as if Testosterone is roaming the streets looting stores, stealing cars, breaking windows (high blood pressure, insomnia, night sweats).

You know what I say? When Trenbolone is sitting at the front of the table, talking, everyone else shuts their mouths. That’s right. He is the ....ing boss and no one else is above him. Testosterone is like the boss’ bitch. The boss’ bitch is allowed to speak ONLY when the boss is NOT speaking.
What do I mean by that? When Trenbolone is at ANYTIME part of your cycle, test is always below 200mg a week. When Trenbolone comes OUT of the equation, that’s when you may blast Testosterone to the moon.

Final conclusion of my trenbolone story?

1) Always keep prolactin in check when using Trenbolone or Nandrolone
2) Never use more than 200mg of Testosterone per week when using Trenbolone
3) Don’t knock something till you try it. It may change your entire mindset of this game!
4) Bump up Tren nice and slow...and get big and lean as Hell!


Written By jimmyjones

It's trial and error... different people react differently to different compounds... what might work for u might not work for me... and also age and bf diet all have a role to play...


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Maybe I just run the caber from the start?. 1/4 of a tablet every Monday and Friday?. Or no?

IDK, I don't think I'd waste it, wait & get some m ore experienced feedback, but your right it's not high at all, but maybe even better, replace the Nandrolone with fast Deca, instead, same, maybe even better benefits, and if any issues arise, you could pull it, then if none, throw the reg deca in there..? I like NPP alot.

But as long as you have the Caber, or Prami @ hand you should be fine. I wouldn't waste it. I'm not saying wait til prolactin raises its ugly head, there must be a warning sign, or early enuff detection to know to throw it in b4 too late I would think...?

Anyone, Vets with solid experience....? What do Ya's
think..?
 
I love Tren and have always done 1/2 tab p/w of caber anytime I ran it. My figuring was it couldnt hurt at that dose and as long as all went well I rolled it the same. Its like an ai when running test. Start out at a level and see how u feel. I also used hydroxyzine for sleep. Never had any issues/sides at all.
 
I love Tren and have always done 1/2 tab p/w of caber anytime I ran it. My figuring was it couldnt hurt at that dose and as long as all went well I rolled it the same. Its like an ai when running test. Start out at a level and see how u feel. I also used hydroxyzine for sleep. Never had any issues/sides at all.

Hmmm. I'm not gonna be running it that high although I am running it with deca but still both are at pretty low dosages. I don't want to low prolactin too much. Plus have you seen the side effects of all the drug interactions of cabergoline?

https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/cabergoline.html

I mean dang. Supposedly it interacts with omeprazole on that drugs.com link. However if I check it with the drug interactions checker it says it doesn't.
 
I never had any prolactin issues..with all the cuban coffee i drink, liquid nicotine b6 etc i ran hgh hcg tren deca test and whenever gyno poped i took nolva and adex it was gone in 2 days..

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