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Brother! You just PM'd me on the 31st saying that you were taking my advice and going to come off finally after over 20 /25 weeks or longer and complaining about adrenal fatigue and I confirmed that your liver is stressed! And possibly your kidneys!, Anavar is a c17 but few bb are aware that it is metabolized inside the kidneys not the liver(the only c17 oral steroid that has this effect) Kidney function (GFR) drops 10% in most blood tests. The primo (enanthate ester) will take 30days to metabolize fully and you said that your last shot was 5 days prior so around Feb 26 the primo will clear!!, and be considered off cycle. Brother I give advice and (design cycles to many pro bb and professional athletes). Go get your blood work like I told you and get checked out! I can assure you that you lipids are a mess,your liver enzymes are high, you need several months off!. Starting another cycle in April is a bad idea that would be actually only one month clean!!. especially without blood work. Running Primo and DHB isn't a bad idea!, they are almost exactly the same compound, only being 1 methyl molecule difference!, results are almost the same and as long as the money isn't an issue that's cool! Running 225mg of test shouldn't over shadow the PRIMO and DHB. Then you have the Winstrol and Tbol both are c17 methylation and are liver toxic and your liver is stressed as we speak!!!.(I advised you no ORALS next cycle and not only did you not take my advice your planning on adding 2 methylated orals! Seriously ) Winstrol is absolutely the worst oral compound in regards to HDL. When I review pro bb bloods( and I see over 30 in my clinics) I can look across my desk and tell them you've been running Winstrol haven't you! And they say "how do you know that" !, because their HDl is in single digits or non existent!. Bro trust me when I say you're asking for trouble!! Go get your bloods. Get your liver detoxed and bring your lipids back to normal!!! Double x I like you your a good brother!!, but you have the symptoms of male steroid dependency!! (you may not be but you have all the symptoms ) and I'm not just giving you advice I'm speaking to the brotherhood on this forum who is reading this thread and hopefully won't make the same mistakes) the proper protocol has to be set by someone with experience. Your cortisol is extremely high from the long metabolic stressed cycle and as we speak the cortisol is consuming any new muscle you have added Its what cortisol does when the body is stressed from central nervous system overload and takes several months for cortisol to get normal!! At the soonest I would start would be June (90 days)(March, April, May) off gear and definitely no ORALS!! Trust me brother! I give advice to professionals and bb far more advanced than you!! Bad idea with two liver toxic compounds (any without blood test confirmation liver and kidney function is normal ) and much to soon especially after a long run(20/25 weeks) with no bloods! Come on brother be smart!! Your health is more important than what maybe a pound or two of lean muscle if you are lucky!! And after all that gear how much did you really gain honestly. At 35 your at the age for heart disease and heart enlargement (from gear, long cycles, diet, lifestyle, and heavy lifting) and much more!. (Bro I'm 292lbs and run half the gear, for a quarter of the time!!) When was your last echo of your heart or if ever!! Even my elite pro bb patients don't run long cycles back to back without blood work and 6 months off because they have learned to up regulate their receptors! and they are pro's and must put their health on the line to make a living. Like I said xx I like you brother but your reckless approach is futile. The main point I'm trying to make is you need to get blood work after long cycles at least once per year and take longer time for your body to heal properly I speak with knowledge and experience, my advice is lucid and dead on balls accurate! , your a veteran member who should use proper protocol and set a good example for the less the less experienced brothers!
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Good advice [MENTION=2489]Gymrattt1[/MENTION].
 
Gymrattt1 said:
Brother! You just PM'd me on the 31st saying that you were taking my advice and going to come off finally after over 20 /25 weeks or longer and complaining about adrenal fatigue and I confirmed that your liver is stressed! And possibly your kidneys!, Anavar is a c17 but few bb are aware that it is metabolized inside the kidneys not the liver(the only c17 oral steroid that has this effect) Kidney function (GFR) drops 10% in most blood tests. The primo (enanthate ester) will take 30days to metabolize fully and you said that your last shot was 5 days prior so around Feb 26 the primo will clear!!, and be considered off cycle. Brother I give advice and (design cycles to many pro bb and professional athletes). Go get your blood work like I told you and get checked out! I can assure you that you lipids are a mess,your liver enzymes are high, you need several months off!. Starting another cycle in April is a bad idea that would be actually only one month clean!!. especially without blood work. Running Primo and DHB isn't a bad idea!, they are almost exactly the same compound, only being 1 methyl molecule difference!, results are almost the same and as long as the money isn't an issue that's cool! Running 225mg of test shouldn't over shadow the PRIMO and DHB. Then you have the Winstrol and Tbol both are c17 methylation and are liver toxic and your liver is stressed as we speak!!!.(I advised you no ORALS next cycle and not only did you not take my advice your planning on adding 2 methylated orals! Seriously ) Winstrol is absolutely the worst oral compound in regards to HDL. When I review pro bb bloods( and I see over 30 in my clinics) I can look across my desk and tell them you've been running Winstrol haven't you! And they say "how do you know that" !, because their HDl is in single digits or non existent!. Bro trust me when I say you're asking for trouble!! Go get your bloods. Get your liver detoxed and bring your lipids back to normal!!! Double x I like you your a good brother!!, but you have the symptoms of male steroid dependency!! (you may not be but you have all the symptoms ) and I'm not just giving you advice I'm speaking to the brotherhood on this forum who is reading this thread and hopefully won't make the same mistakes) the proper protocol has to be set by someone with experience. Your cortisol is extremely high from the long metabolic stressed cycle and as we speak the cortisol is consuming any new muscle you have added Its what cortisol does when the body is stressed from central nervous system overload and takes several months for cortisol to get normal!! At the soonest I would start would be June (90 days)(March, April, May) off gear and definitely no ORALS!! Trust me brother! I give advice to professionals and bb far more advanced than you!! Bad idea with two liver toxic compounds (any without blood test confirmation liver and kidney function is normal ) and much to soon especially after a long run(20/25 weeks) with no bloods! Come on brother be smart!! Your health is more important than what maybe a pound or two of lean muscle if you are lucky!! And after all that gear how much did you really gain honestly. At 35 your at the age for heart disease and heart enlargement (from gear, long cycles, diet, lifestyle, and heavy lifting) and much more!. (Bro I'm 292lbs and run half the gear, for a quarter of the time!!) When was your last echo of your heart or if ever!! Even my elite pro bb patients don't run long cycles back to back without blood work and 6 months off because they have learned to up regulate their receptors! and they are pro's and must put their health on the line to make a living. Like I said xx I like you brother but your reckless approach is futile. The main point I'm trying to make is you need to get blood work after long cycles at least once per year and take longer time for your body to heal properly I speak with knowledge and experience, my advice is lucid and dead on balls accurate! , your a veteran member who should use proper protocol and set a good example for the less the less experienced brothers!
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I appreciate your advice. Yes, I have addictive tendencies at times.

I respect your knowledge and prob needed to be checked like that.

I will hold off until June... I am actually STILL gaining size/strength during my pct!

Ive discovered a few non-hormonal supps that are kicking ass, so it makes the idea of staying off-cycle for a longer period easier.

How much/where can i get a blood test done?

Do you have any advice for improving lipids while i am off?

Thank you.
 
xxplosive said:
I appreciate your advice. Yes, I have addictive tendencies at times.

I respect your knowledge and prob needed to be checked like that.

I will hold off until June... I am actually STILL gaining size/strength during my pct!

Ive discovered a few non-hormonal supps that are kicking ass, so it makes the idea of staying off-cycle for a longer period easier.

How much/where can i get a blood test done?

Do you have any advice for improving lipids while i am off?

Thank you.
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That's what I want to hear brother! I salute you! You gotta realize that you're bigger than most of the normal guy's on the street and you might not see it in your own eyes because of the desire to make progress and most guys don't have the drive and guts to push themselves to the limit and sit back and blame Steroids for all of the hard work we put in the gym (blood sweat and tears)!! I know losing some size and that undefeatable /amazing feeling that gear gives you is hard to let go but in the end your health is more important brother! Get your hands on some TMG and (trimethylglycine) aka betaine, it's an amazing liver detox and lowers blood homosystine and recommend it for all my heart patients. TMG has many scientific backed studies that are unbelievable for the body because it is methyl Donor, super cheap and available on ebay (hard rhino) bulk powder, you can get a kilo (2.2lbs) for $20.00. Back in the orals thread motor city posted a great link of it amazing effects or PM him, just Google it, best of all its a muscle cell volumizer better than creatine at 230lbs you will store about 8/10 lbs in the muscle cells, which will hold you over size wise until next run while you are detoxing the body! The poultry industry gives it to chicken and pigs to increase the weight and value of the product! Ever wonder why the chicken breast are so huge these days it tmg , it will obviously come out of the body after use like creatine! Take a heaping tablespoon 3 or4 time per day with a beverage it has no taste or maybe a mild sweet taste like sugar!. And get some phosphatidylcholine it is the same phospalipid that human cells are made of and will be absorbed in liver more efficiently also pull anything taken with it like milk thistle which is not absorbed by the body well and actually makes it 10x stronger that way choline is prescribed in Europe for liver disease and a fatty liver caused by high carbohydrates and sugars!! Great product and dirt cheap $10.00 on eBay! Blood work is about $100.00 in most city's. Get the TMG and phosphatidylcholine for detox and the 10lbs of fullness in the muscles. You can expect a better cycle with fresh receptors and again I'm glad that you are taking my advice and getting your bloods brother! Well done!!

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Go off gear!. Lmao!. Next you'll be telling him to join planet fitness and lift lightly!.
 
Gymrattt1 said:
Good one bro! I would not ask my worst enemy to join planet fitness!, that place is brutal!! The guys in that place all wear tampons! Lol!!

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lol... I get enough dirty looks going to 24!

Can i get you to PM me a source for TMG and the phospho?

My current liver/adrenal detox stack is:

- Apple Cider Vinegar
- N-Acetyl Cysteine
- Beet Root Extract
- B-Complex
- Magnesium/Calcium/Zinc/D3
 
xxplosive said:
lol... I get enough dirty looks going to 24!

Can i get you to PM me a source for TMG and the phospho?

My current liver/adrenal detox stack is:

- Apple Cider Vinegar
- N-Acetyl Cysteine
- Beet Root Extract
- B-Complex
- Magnesium/Calcium/Zinc/D3
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Just go to ebay and type in tmg supplement bulk powder (hard rhino is the brand I use and they offer all supplements in bulk powder! I'm having a hard time posting links on my smartphone also for your lipids nothing better than omega 3 fish oil it will improve lipids in 60 days! Krill oil is best but very expensive! Ebay has amazing prices pharmaceutical grade fish oil for $20.00

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The tmg you can take as much as you want without no problems! I take a massive tablespoon 10 times every day with water when detoxing!!
Tmg also goes by the name betaine
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"Hard Rhino" Brother....?? The one I grabbed last time.

https://www.hardrhino.com/betaine-trimethylglycine-tmg-powder/


Gymrattt1 said:
Just go to ebay and type in tmg supplement bulk powder (black rhino is the brand I use and they offer all supplements in bulk powder! I'm having a hard time posting links on my smartphone also for your lipids nothing better than omega 3 fish oil it will improve lipids in 60 days! Krill oil is best but very expensive! Ebay has amazing prices pharmaceutical grade fish oil for $20.00

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My personal advice for your next cycle would be
NPP 200mg eod
Dhb 200mg eod
Test ace 150mg every 2 days
The primo and the dhb are so similar in effect npp may be a better option bro! Now if you have already purchased the product cool, if not I can help!!! I have npp 200mg/ml, dhb 200mg/ml, test ace 150mg/ml twice the dosage on on npp/dhb /50mg more on test ace! Just PM a brotha!!!!

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xxplosive said:
I just looked at their inventory.... WOW. How did i not know this existed before?

Appreciate it.

Might grab some Agmatine and N-AC powder too.
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No problem bro! in cap format you can expect to pay up the ass! For 100caps, I just bought a half kilo each of nac and choline for less than $40 this morning!!! Will last a 2 years

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xxplosive said:
How about:

Test P - 225mg
Primo - 800mg
NPP - 450mg
Inj Winny - 100mg eod
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That looks good to me! The inj - winny will offset the bloating you get from the npp, then the npp will still lubricant your joints from the winny, they both counter each others negative attributes! Your g2g

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Gymrattt1 said:
That looks good to me! The inj - winny will offset the bloating you get from the npp, then the npp will still lubricant your joints from the winny, they both counter each others negative attributes! Your g2g

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With fresh receptors, i should blow up on that stack.

Primo puts mass on me... I've never ran it with a high dose of NPP.

Should be fun!
 

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