Shoulder pain

[Tuffy87]

I keep some tb500 around for that anywhere I got pain a pin 😀

 

[ketsugo]

ketsugo, what are the warm ups your talking about, I have only been lifting a little over a year. I have added some gear and practice Tangsoodo for 20 years, 3rd Dan fixing to test for Master. I have developed tendinitis from overwork on the bench. Staying low weight for now and not sure its going to heal, thanks for any input. If I need to start a thread I will, didn't mean to jump this thread. I am 48 so the benching is the worst to me for heavy weight.

First to me warm up initially is raising body temp after that loosening the area ( bike ,treadmill or light activity) stretch is never a warm up . To loosen dektoid try google " shoulder pendulum exercise " basically it's taking 2-5 pound dumbbell and bending at waist like you are about to do one arm DB row but you make slow ,deliberate, huge circles . Do like sets of 15-20 in each direction for each arm . Then take lite DB do rotator lifts by either laying on side arm bent and lift DB but keep elbow tucked as hinge . That's it . Later I discovered doing my Arnis strikes with light rattan can serve dual purpose- similar circular loosening and repeatedly practice certain strikes lol.

Now I'm 51 I got multiple black belts and menkyo in over 20 arts so I hear you ! Much of the things we practiced all our lives are horrible on joints like punching the air for example lol. That along with weights by our age it's like lucky to be moving . I personally stopped bench pressing in 1978. I do dips,inclines, DB flys cable cross overs , pec dec- as bodybuilding you got plenty to do . Hey ever hear of Vince Gironda? Famous old tyme trainer of many champions. I prescribed to his idea that flat bench was useless only needed to powerlifting competition. Hey there is some data too that support but honestly who gives shit ? Lol if a exercise hurts don't do it . You can work around any injury . Over 30 years, multiple surgeries I never took lay off I hadn't planned . When I shattered my spine I even joined gyms that had apparatus or machine I could use to work around my spine . We all are our own best teachers and listener . Just need to hear your body

 

[horsefli]

First to me warm up initially is raising body temp after that loosening the area ( bike ,treadmill or light activity) stretch is never a warm up . To loosen dektoid try google " shoulder pendulum exercise " basically it's taking 2-5 pound dumbbell and bending at waist like you are about to do one arm DB row but you make slow ,deliberate, huge circles . Do like sets of 15-20 in each direction for each arm . Then take lite DB do rotator lifts by either laying on side arm bent and lift DB but keep elbow tucked as hinge . That's it . Later I discovered doing my Arnis strikes with light rattan can serve dual purpose- similar circular loosening and repeatedly practice certain strikes lol.

Now I'm 51 I got multiple black belts and menkyo in over 20 arts so I hear you ! Much of the things we practiced all our lives are horrible on joints like punching the air for example lol. That along with weights by our age it's like lucky to be moving . I personally stopped bench pressing in 1978. I do dips,inclines, DB flys cable cross overs , pec dec- as bodybuilding you got plenty to do . Hey ever hear of Vince Gironda? Famous old tyme trainer of many champions. I prescribed to his idea that flat bench was useless only needed to powerlifting competition. Hey there is some data too that support but honestly who gives shit ? Lol if a exercise hurts don't do it . You can work around any injury . Over 30 years, multiple surgeries I never took lay off I hadn't planned . When I shattered my spine I even joined gyms that had apparatus or machine I could use to work around my spine . We all are our own best teachers and listener . Just need to hear your body

Thanks brother, I warm up with routine excersises, then forms and a round of one step, and sparring, helping kids. Do 2 hours 3-4 nights a week, 3 nights lifting. I kind of new what you were saying on the pendulums just never used weights with them. Impressive resume in the ARTS! Been rolling with local LEO in my home town for a while in Ju Jitsu, boxing and CSW, have a lot to learn still, these guys are 100% bad asses, I can hold my own standing up but these guys get with it on the ground! I am tapped out in a few seconds,lol! even after a year. Most of them have been doing some form of wrestling there entire life so i dont feel terrible.

 

[ketsugo]

Thanks brother, I warm up with routine excersises, then forms and a round of one step, and sparring, helping kids. Do 2 hours 3-4 nights a week, 3 nights lifting. I kind of new what you were saying on the pendulums just never used weights with them. Impressive resume in the ARTS! Been rolling with local LEO in my home town for a while in Ju Jitsu, boxing and CSW, have a lot to learn still, these guys are 100% bad asses, I can hold my own standing up but these guys get with it on the ground! I am tapped out in a few seconds,lol! even after a year. Most of them have been doing some form of wrestling there entire life so i dont feel terrible.

First God Bless YOU ! I tip my hat- First I have no patience to ever teach kids, hell I wont teach anyone who did any modern form like Boxing, Karate or Tae Kwon D0- cuz I have to help them unlearn everything - as I teach normally Soldiers , or prepare for life or death combat- no ring training stuff that would get them killed.
Just far as the Shoulder routines- In the gym you warm the body by breaking sweat - whatever that is- then prior to upper body you do the pendulums- Do it right and never have shoulder issues again . I was scheduled for rotator cuff surgery in 2007, started this and train smart- No pain ever again in shoulders and I do not use light weight in my workouts- 450 pounds Press Behind Neck 10-12 reps - not max but I cant say its light.Just listen to your body- it will tell you when tired and when to rest or lay off. Doing all the other stuff rememeber we teeter on the edge of over training. Long as you stay with it - you wont lose it

 

[horsefli]

My Kwanjangnim taught american soldiers in Korea, different levels for sure. Some kids are great, some terrible for sure, not like working with trained people wanting to learn. Will be trying the exercise for sure, thanks! I haven't been able to get anything off the bench over 185 since i hurt my shoulders getting up to 325 and had to stop.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

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