Pharma grade orals stronger than UGL?

[Andrew0409]

Someone pointed me to a video of enhanced athletes on youtube, and the guys on there said that 30mg of his prescription pharma var does what 70-80mg of UGL var does even assuming it's 99% pure. But he said he talked about it before and didn't go into why. Is he just talking out his ass or is there a reason for this. And i'm not talking about under dosing, he said that even if the raws were 99% pure, pharmaceutical var is more potent.

 

[Kins]

I don't know if I trust that guy. Last video I saw of him he was telling a 21 year old 6 foot 140 pound guy "how to use tren". Plus, he just seems like a real d-bag. Sounds like maybe you mid-understood him or something.

 

[Andrew0409]

I don't know if I trust that guy. Last video I saw of him he was telling a 21 year old 6 foot 140 pound guy "how to use tren". Plus, he just seems like a real d-bag. Sounds like maybe you mid-understood him or something.

Yeah, i don't watch his videos. Some guys in my other forum were saying back in the days, pharma grade stuff seemed to work so much more. Real pharma Dbol 10-20mg was enough compared to now everyone running 50mg. I just wanted to know if there's any reason why some people swear that pharma orals seems more potent mg per mg even matched against really quality sources.

 

[Kins]

Yeah, i don't watch his videos. Some guys in my other forum were saying back in the days, pharma grade stuff seemed to work so much more. Real pharma Dbol 10-20mg was enough compared to now everyone running 50mg. I just wanted to know if there's any reason why some people swear that pharma orals seems more potent mg per mg even matched against really quality sources.

Maybe their are more re-sellers and more fakes now then back then. Not sure, just a guess.

 

[01dragonslayer]

I don't know if I trust that guy. Last video I saw of him he was telling a 21 year old 6 foot 140 pound guy "how to use tren". Plus, he just seems like a real d-bag. Sounds like maybe you mid-understood him or something.

I agree....wouldn't trust 'em as far as I could throw 'em.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

I agree....wouldn't trust 'em as far as I could throw 'em.

He is a douchebag, and acts like a flamer.., I bet he takes it in the Cornhole. (AC/DC ) can't stand him, nor that Dylan Grenali, or whatever his little skinny ass is called, or the other Sarms u-tube armchair know it all, always flexin his lagging muscles with his fat wife in the background.

 

[01dragonslayer]

He is a douchebag, and acts like a flamer.., I bet he takes it in the Cornhole. (AC/DC ) can't stand him, nor that Dylan Grenali, or whatever his little skinny ass is called, or the other Sarms u-tube armchair know it all, always flexin his lagging muscles with his fat wife in the background.

....I think we struck a nerve...lol.

 

[drollin]

also heard that 20-40 var pharm is todays 80-100 ugl


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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

....I think we struck a nerve...lol.

No, not really I don't tune in to those, but have seen em'and familiar. They all just annoy me.. especially the shirt haired blond, with the wife running round in the background..Ya know who I'm referring to...?
I don't know the name, not the same he represents.

But he is truly annoying, like a teenager going thru puberty lol..!

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

He's got sort of s hairlip...! I didn't want to say that, as I didn't want.t to offend anyone, but best way to describe.

 

[01dragonslayer]

He's got sort of s hairlip...! I didn't want to say that, as I didn't want.t to offend anyone, but best way to describe.

Ya mean this guy.....

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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Ya mean this guy.....

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Haha...! Lol... Yes..
That is he..!

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Really "Looks" like he pushes himself huh..!

 

[Kins]

I'm agreeable with Motor. Seems every Tom Dick and Harry wants be internet famous via YouTube. I've even seen guys on a lot of forums just join those forums so they could get more YouTube followers. Truly it's the only reason they are on the forum. The younger generations seem to be fascinated with YouTube and these "gurus" with their "channels". YouTube is great for certain things but these D-Bags seeking internet fame ruined it, just like they ruined social media as a whole. I mean I respect the guys that have done the hard work before YouTube existed and would have had books and been recognizable outside of YouTube followers. Maybe I'm just old, but I enjoyed the days before YouTube, FaceBook, Twitter, and Insta-Gram. If I had to guess I would say 80 percent of the crap on social media platforms is total BS.

Sure the internet is great, but I'm not a fan of social media.
[MENTION=968]MotorCityMuscleMachine[/MENTION] - What do you think?.

 

[Alan0160]

To answer the original question, it would seem like a generalization to say pharma grade is better than what is offered by UGL's. I would say not all UGL's are created equal or the raws they sell.

 

[Andrew0409]

To answer the original question, it would seem like a generalization to say pharma grade is better than what is offered by UGL's. I would say not all UGL's are created equal or the raws they sell.

The originally question is, I got guys who's been in the game longer than i've been alive tell me that for some reason, pharma grade seems to be significantly more potent for reasons they don't know even if they raws that are 99% pure. Is this just in their head?

 

[Kins]

The originally question is, I got guys who's been in the game longer than i've been alive tell me that for some reason, pharma grade seems to be significantly more potent for reasons they don't know even if they raws that are 99% pure. Is this just in their head?

It could be. Reason I say this is pharma is more expensive. People want to believe that "you get what you pay for" and will nonsensically purchase a more expensive item or brand thinking just because it costs more than it's better. Even though the cheaper version is the exact same thing. The same kind of guys won't buy store brands at the supermarket because they think name brand is better because it costs more. Of course there are exceptions, but the majority of the time it's the exact same product. With the types of products we are talking about here in the thread it's gonna be somewhat different but the mentality is the same no doubt.

Sure with "gear" it's gonna be different but if you find a good guy like D-Red, I'd purchase his oral products over pharma every time because I know they are just as good.

 

[01dragonslayer]

The originally question is, I got guys who's been in the game longer than i've been alive tell me that for some reason, pharma grade seems to be significantly more potent for reasons they don't know even if they raws that are 99% pure. Is this just in their head?

Apologies for hijacking. To answer your question IMO while pharm-grade gear is certainly higher quality from a purity standpoint, and is also more likely to meet label claims, the truth is that there is many UGL-gear on the market capable of providing the same results. How likely this is to be the case is dependent on many factors, such as the hormone in question, the manufacturer used, company reputation, whether or not independent lab testing is employed, etc.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

He is a douchebag, and acts like a flamer.., I bet he takes it in the Cornhole. (AC/DC ) can't stand him, nor that Dylan Grenali, or whatever his little skinny ass is called, or the other Sarms u-tube armchair know it all, always flexin his lagging muscles with his fat wife in the background.

Gemelli is a fraud. I love SARMS and they have a place but that dude did a jacked cycle and came out looking like a female swimsuit model. Dude is reading shit the whole time. Fucking fake as scammer who has young dudes following him like a freaking cult.


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[ketsugo]

Someone pointed me to a video of enhanced athletes on youtube, and the guys on there said that 30mg of his prescription pharma var does what 70-80mg of UGL var does even assuming it's 99% pure. But he said he talked about it before and didn't go into why. Is he just talking out his ass or is there a reason for this. And i'm not talking about under dosing, he said that even if the raws were 99% pure, pharmaceutical var is more potent.

In my 20 years on forums this comes up a lot and sorry I think its the most asinine and preposterous thing to say. IN fact my two most effective cycles Ive ever done both HGH and AAS were UG with nominal doses. If you neeed 100 to equal 30 then they are just plain liars and underdosing and ripping you, off. Plus most avice on internet anywhere is complete bullshit. Experiment you are your best judge and teacher.