Normal swelling with T400?

[Donkeykong]

First time with T400...By T*&%$$ and first time using a .5" slin pin in quad. Ive always used 1". Expected soreness but the quad is swollen in the area for 3rd day now...No fever, no redness.. Could this just be normal? Never swollen up like this from anything. Its not an egg its like a long line of muscle bulging out and sore as fk. I do not think its from using a slin pin but maybe just the concentration? Did .5 " in my delt and its absolutely fine... A bit sore but nothing like quad

 

[Gone]

oh yes..defiantly...#1..its the quads...#2 t400mg..i never use the high mg anymore....messes me up

 

[dustined83]

I had the same problem not long ago. I love pinnin quads so if you're going to do it I suggest a one inch pin. That's when all my problems disappeared and I pin quads at least three times a week. I forgot the source but someone was telling me a 3/4 wasn't long enough so I tried the one inch and haven't looked back since lol

 

[ketsugo]

I had the same problem not long ago. I love pinnin quads so if you're going to do it I suggest a one inch pin. That's when all my problems disappeared and I pin quads at least three times a week. I forgot the source but someone was telling me a 3/4 wasn't long enough so I tried the one inch and haven't looked back since lol

Yup I do the same - I pin daily calves or quads only. I rotate the injection site, never pinnning in same area

 

[Donkeykong]

Ya thanks... Im going back to 1" and ill keep the slin pins for delts.

 

[Donkeykong]

3/4 in will only penetrate soft tissue not muscle

which leads to soft tissue infection - cellultius or abscess

take it from a guy who's had cellilutis a few times

Shit..just soreness and swollen for now...Hoping clears up... I would know if I had it right? There would be redness? Fever?

 

[jolter604]

I just heat it up in water and it gos in smooth.I pinn up to 3 cc in my quads but I use 1-1/2 and heat it up maybe that's why I get no pip

 

[jolter604]

same. I use a blow dryer on the cartridge of syringe (3cc filled).

I used to do hot water on it but I dislike the contamination probability

Good call I have a portable heat tray for coffee but I'm afraid of it breaking or getting too hot.lmao

 

[Donkeykong]

pain has faded although the swollen area is still there...I think it should be ok but lesson learned. Do things the proven way and not listen to bro science.

 

[Donkeykong]

redness and heat...thought it would be fine go to store get back and boom...wtf
do i need to go to the hospital? my doctors a dick dont know what exscuse to use def not admitting aas useage...

 

[dustined83]

redness and heat...thought it would be fine go to store get back and boom...wtf
do i need to go to the hospital? my doctors a dick dont know what exscuse to use def not admitting aas useage...

What's the solvent? I'm allergic to EO and the two times I used gear with EO I did glute injects and couldn't sit for a week. Just a thought. That's why I stay at 350 mg or less now. That's the strongest it can be made without solvents

 

[Donkeykong]

pretty sure its because i used a slin pin wasnt deep enough for quad. did same in delt and its fine. i am going to keep using the t400 and hope im right.... i went and got antibiotics at er... the redness is gone.still swollen up though. gotta call doctor. they wrote up as cellulitis but are trying to get me for ultrasound chech for blood clot deep vein t,,, which we all know its not. def not getting ultrasound.

 

[dustined83]

pretty sure its because i used a slin pin wasnt deep enough for quad. did same in delt and its fine. i am going to keep using the t400 and hope im right.... i went and got antibiotics at er... the redness is gone.still swollen up though. gotta call doctor. they wrote up as cellulitis but are trying to get me for ultrasound chech for blood clot deep vein t,,, which we all know its not. def not getting ultrasound.

If it's the same quad pin hurtin it's def the needle

 

[Omega Labs]

theres a couple immediate things you did wrong.

the pin you are using is half the length it needs to be to penetrate the muscle. Not to mention doing it in your leg is going to be one of hardest places to get a pain free injection with that compound at 400mg/ml.

T400 is no joke (IF ITS ACTUAL T400) even my Test 300 has as bit of a sting because its REAL TEST 300MG/ML. Anytime someone gets my Test 400, I make sure to let them know its REAL AND GOING TO HAVE SOME BITE!
If you hear anyone saying they are taking pain free injections with 400mg test per ml, they got some severely under dosed shit or totally bunk.

I personally dont mess with high dose because its not worth the pain. Ill do a couple cc's of 200 or 1 1/4 cc of test 300. But to each his own. Some people just want to get the most compound per vial they can. I refuse to sell anything higher than test 400 because anything over that is completely unfeasible to inject. Just way to much compound per ML.

Hope this gave you some insight. STAY AWAY FROM SLIN PINS ON OILS. They are for water based gear and peptides...period.

Much Respect,
OMEGA

 

[Donkeykong]

Oh Ive learned my lesson...I dont know why I even did this. I never even used to use 1" on glutes, HAD to be 1.5. Stupid of me I know. I may not even use the slin pins for delts now going to get 1" in morning hoping to be able to lift lower body in few days...

 

[Mountain-Man]

Some times I get a little pip but most of the time I get no pain from high mg aas even used a t500 no pip

 

[ISCHUS]

Definitely use a longer pin
Heat before injecting

These two things should help for the future. I just used a slin pin for 1/2cc injection of Test 500. I pinned my right pec and it's swollen and sore. I was trying to see if I could use a slin pin with the gear. I know now I can but it's a dumb idea lol. I knew better.

 

[Donkeykong]

Definitely use a longer pin
Heat before injecting

These two things should help for the future. I just used a slin pin for 1/2cc injection of Test 500. I pinned my right pec and it's swollen and sore. I was trying to see if I could use a slin pin with the gear. I know now I can but it's a dumb idea lol. I knew better.

See some people are doing it ...I just got shit on another board by some scrawny loser for saying I used a 1/2" yet in same thread others are saying they use it as well no issues...I am def going to be back to 1" though I found they do work fine in delts(I used to use 1" in delts and sink in all the way) It may be the thick oil and high concentration ...Id think deeper is better but figured 1/2 would still get into mucle there is not much skin or fat there at all

 

[Donkeykong]

So I stopped with slin pins for good... I was doing fine with them in delts but delt actually swole up on left side and got bicep with redness, and wasn't much of an issue then I did right side with prop so a comp diff test which caused the first issue and the knot went from the right spot in medial head all the way down to where delt ties in to bicep. I will say in this(it has since faded and knot has left) inject the needle bent at some point in the act and pulled out bent. It was loaded from the outside by taking plunger out so it was not dull. I had to push quite hard so the guage could be an issue as well. ANYWAYS, I went and used a good ole fashioned 1" 25 gauge with T400 AND prop in same inject and no redness no knot swelling ect... I wont be using slin pins anymore out of personal preference. I wonder what it is I am doing wrong compared to the guys doing it all the time with no issues. Im always clean shower first and use alcohol. All I can think of is it could be the gauge as that plunger is mfer to push with oil or water based...Just curious however I'd rather have piece of mind and use my 1"-1.5" monsters and not have to worry about PIP or whatever the fk is going on lol...