Long winded cycle advice??

tdthick

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Ok, trying to give as much info as possible...

44, lifting on and off for 27 years. I typically "train" as opposed to just lift. Played football in college(Div 2), was a competitive power lifter for many years and my numbers were pretty competitive/good at 197 and 205. 650s, 405b, and 655dl. West side barbell training style. That was many years ago, but those years taught me the importance of going to the gym with a purpose as opposed to just going and lifting. My workouts are laid out and followed, not just guessing when I walk in the door.

Have run a number of 12 week cycles, a couple 8 weekers, and a 20 week cycle. 20 week was my last one. Have used test e, c, sust, and prop. Tren e and a, although I just didn't get much from either compound which makes me assume they were way underdosed or complete fakes. Both from same source. Seem to have done well with both NPP and deca. Often start with dbol which I get good gains from. In addition, a number of random things such as TNE, Tren suspension, Tren no ester, inj dbol and inj adrol.

What I would like to do this time is run another long cycle landing me towards end of August. Roughly 20 weeks. My thoughts are to run the beginning half as a lean bulker, and the second half to use as MORE LEAN bulker. Haha. In other words, I don't necessarily need to run second half as a cutting mini cycle but would like to lean out a little more than I am and would be.

I have most products on hand that could be used in almost any cycle barring Hgh and primo. Both inj as well as orals. Tbol, adrol, dbol. Also have plenty ai and hcg on hand.

My diet is generally pretty good and I will sit down with a buddy of mine who is a national competitor that is scheduled to(hope to) get his pro card in 8 weeks. Both he and his wife compete. Both sponsored. And both work in the business. She owns two gyms and is the personal trainer, and he runs a large supplement fulfillment center. Needless to say, I get a lot of product. Anyway, they will be organizing my diet and I stay on beat with a plan when on hand.

I weigh about 215 now and generally like to get to 235-240. My guess(prob pretty close after all these years) is I am about 12-%14% bf right now but always look athletic, never frumpy. I get in shape quickly and have good genetics and muscle memory. What I have never done, due to not wanting to, is actually train and cycle to meet the goal of a "ripped" look. I just never liked it. Wife prefers it, I would prefer to weigh 260 with 24inch arms, no neck, thick abs, and fuking huge!!! Haha. May be getting too old for that and this would be a good time to see how far I can take myself with this. She would appreciate it. Lol

Let me know what your thoughts are. I'd like a kickstart to a cycle and an oral finish(now that sounds odd haha) as well. I would like to run Tren again and see how I respond, never used eq or mast, but have plenty of each. All short and long.

What other info you want? I didn't put down exact cycles I used as This is very long winded as is. I don't mind stacking many compounds, all I would prefer is that I don't pin every day. Eod is fine, 3x/week better yet. But with goal in mind, I am willing to do what is needed.

A lot of info and words. Hope it's not too confusing.

Thanks for any input......







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I would differently run EQ at 600 to 800 mgs the length of the cycle . I like test c myself but u could a vial of sust to kick start the cycle off. I don't run my orals until at least week 4 of my cycle cause I believe u got more bang for ur buck when the other compounds have kicked in . I would run Dbol at the beginning of,the cycle with npp and tren a with drol and drol/ winny or var and the end . I would probably split it into 10 week 10week run.

All this is just in my opinion of course.

Hope this helps some brother
 
Understood... thanks Pooh. I read trough your summer/cut and this sounds similar. May run it with you. Would tbol be a better option as opposed to dbol or wouldn't it matter much? I think i got some of the answers I was looking for right there. ThNks


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Hey Pooh... I assume I can just substitute tri test or any test for the sust or cyp? Test is test, correct? Just keep similar dosage....


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Yes , I just use test c cause it's used so much in the world for everything so in my opinion the raws are better
 
Have taken Ment before but no experience with 1-test. I have noticed a lot of discussion on the topic lately,
Like someone opened the flood gates on the product. Was I just missing it before or was it just not that popular or made that often by ugl?


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Yes , I just use test c cause it's used so much in the world for everything so in my opinion the raws are better

What about front loading any of this? Something I have bee done. Do you see benefit in doing so?


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I would differently run EQ at 600 to 800 mgs the length of the cycle . I like test c myself but u could a vial of sust to kick start the cycle off. I don't run my orals until at least week 4 of my cycle cause I believe u got more bang for ur buck when the other compounds have kicked in . I would run Dbol at the beginning of,the cycle with npp and tren a with drol and drol/ winny or var and the end . I would probably split it into 10 week 10week run.

All this is just in my opinion of course.

Hope this helps some brother

Also, what is meant by this? "I would run Dbol at the beginning of,the cycle with npp and tren a with drol and drol/ winny or var and the end ."


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Thick, if you end up looken into 1-test there's a guy on the board right now with a thread about how painful it is, pooh bear can tell ya he was giving him pointers on how to help lower the pip
 
What about front loading any of this? Something I have bee done. Do you see benefit in doing so?


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If ur going to front load do it with the sust u have on hand
 
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Also, what is meant by this? "I would run Dbol at the beginning of,the cycle with npp and tren a with drol and drol/ winny or var and the end ."


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On front end of ur 20 week cycle so the first 10 weeks of the cycle is ur bulk right ? The back end of ur 20 week cycle is ur cut part . So I'd run Dbol or tbol on week 5 thur week 10 . Then take 4 weeks of and start ur drol/ winny or var
 
Thick, if you end up looken into 1-test there's a guy on the board right now with a thread about how painful it is, pooh bear can tell ya he was giving him pointers on how to help lower the pip

Yes, I have seen many posts about this. I get crushed by test suspension so this scares me as well.... crippling crushed!


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Specifically the sust? Or meaning whatever test I decide to use? Aka, tri test.


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Yea what ever test u want to use . Do a layout like mine and I can maybe show more of what I'm talking about bro
 
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