insulin syringe to inject aas
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The Benefits of Injecting Steroids with Insulin Syringes
If you are a steroid user, the chances are that you’ve been taught to use 23 guage or 25 guage needles for intramuscular injections of anabolic steroids. After all, this is what athletes and bodybuilders have been doing for decades. Furthermore, medical school and medical professionals all recommend and use either 21g to 23g and 1 to 1-1/2 inch long needles for intramuscular injections. Why would anyone consider doing anything differently?
What if there was a better and more optimal way to inject steroids? Are 21g and 23g needles the best size for steroid injections? It certainly is a tried, tested and convenient method preferred by nurses and doctors. But sometimes the procedures used by medical professionals represent what is the most convenient and quickest method and NOT necessarily what is optimal for the patient.
Medical professionals would much prefer to use a procedure that requires only 3 seconds over one that requires 30 seconds even if a gradual injection is better for the patient. And since most patients may have a high body fat percentage that requires the use of a long 1-inch or 1-1/2 inch needle, doctors will use the long needle even in cases when the patient has a low bodyfat and a shorter needle would suffice. Doctors tend to subscribe to the one-size-fits-all approach that works best for them and not necessarily best for their patient.
In most cases, bodybuilders who inject steroids would benefit from using smaller insulin syringes. These syringes are typically 29 guage and ½ inch long. The use of smaller needle sizes is much easier on the muscle tissue. Larger needles cause more muscle trauma and are much more likely to cause scar tissue especially with repeated injections over time. Furthermore, the slower injection speed (30+ seconds) that comes with the use of insulin syringes is also much easier on the muscle tissue than the faster injection speed (3 seconds) with 21g and 23g needles. When larger injection volumes are involved, three slow injections of 1 milliliter still cause less muscle trauma that a single fast injection of 3-milliliters.
The smaller needle size and slower injection speed associated with the use of insulin syringes make it optimal for steroid users seeking to minimize scar tissue and muscle tissue trauma.
In addition, the shallower depth required with insulin syringes means that steroid users have a wider selection of injection sites (e.g. delts, biceps, triceps, quads, etc). This allows them to avoid the problem of repeated injections in the same site.
An important factor that may have historically deterred steroid users from using insulin syringes is the fact that it is extremely difficult, and sometimes seemingly impossible, to draw the injectable solution utilizing an insulin syringe/needle.
There are two solutions to overcoming this difficulty. The most common solution is to ‘backload’ or ‘backfill’ the insulin syringe. This involves the use of a second larger guage needle/syringe to draw the solution from the vial or ampule. The plunger is removed from the insulin syringe and the barrel of the insulin syringe is backfilled with the solution.
Alternatively, the original insulin syringe can be used to both draw and inject the solution. Drawing the solution takes much longer than it would with a 21g or 21 guage needle. Instead of a few seconds, it could take 2-3 minutes. Few people have the patience to do this. But few people realize that you are not required to actively pull on the plunger for the full 2-3 minutes to fill the syringe. You are only required to draw waiting long enough to start the flow of oil into the syringe. You can then pull the plunger back to the desired fill point and set the vial on its side and go do something else. You can then return a few minutes later and the syringe will be filled and ready to use.
The optimal method of injecting steroids is not necessarily the most convenient. However, for those bodybuilders interested in optimizing every aspect of their pharmacological endeavors, there are several benefits to using insulin syringes for steroid injections.
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If you are a steroid user, the chances are that you’ve been taught to use 23 guage or 25 guage needles for intramuscular injections of anabolic steroids. After all, this is what athletes and bodybuilders have been doing for decades. Furthermore, medical school and medical professionals all recommend and use either 21g to 23g and 1 to 1-1/2 inch long needles for intramuscular injections. Why would anyone consider doing anything differently?
What if there was a better and more optimal way to inject steroids? Are 21g and 23g needles the best size for steroid injections? It certainly is a tried, tested and convenient method preferred by nurses and doctors. But sometimes the procedures used by medical professionals represent what is the most convenient and quickest method and NOT necessarily what is optimal for the patient.
Medical professionals would much prefer to use a procedure that requires only 3 seconds over one that requires 30 seconds even if a gradual injection is better for the patient. And since most patients may have a high body fat percentage that requires the use of a long 1-inch or 1-1/2 inch needle, doctors will use the long needle even in cases when the patient has a low bodyfat and a shorter needle would suffice. Doctors tend to subscribe to the one-size-fits-all approach that works best for them and not necessarily best for their patient.
In most cases, bodybuilders who inject steroids would benefit from using smaller insulin syringes. These syringes are typically 29 guage and ½ inch long. The use of smaller needle sizes is much easier on the muscle tissue. Larger needles cause more muscle trauma and are much more likely to cause scar tissue especially with repeated injections over time. Furthermore, the slower injection speed (30+ seconds) that comes with the use of insulin syringes is also much easier on the muscle tissue than the faster injection speed (3 seconds) with 21g and 23g needles. When larger injection volumes are involved, three slow injections of 1 milliliter still cause less muscle trauma that a single fast injection of 3-milliliters.
The smaller needle size and slower injection speed associated with the use of insulin syringes make it optimal for steroid users seeking to minimize scar tissue and muscle tissue trauma.
In addition, the shallower depth required with insulin syringes means that steroid users have a wider selection of injection sites (e.g. delts, biceps, triceps, quads, etc). This allows them to avoid the problem of repeated injections in the same site.
An important factor that may have historically deterred steroid users from using insulin syringes is the fact that it is extremely difficult, and sometimes seemingly impossible, to draw the injectable solution utilizing an insulin syringe/needle.
There are two solutions to overcoming this difficulty. The most common solution is to ‘backload’ or ‘backfill’ the insulin syringe. This involves the use of a second larger guage needle/syringe to draw the solution from the vial or ampule. The plunger is removed from the insulin syringe and the barrel of the insulin syringe is backfilled with the solution.
Alternatively, the original insulin syringe can be used to both draw and inject the solution. Drawing the solution takes much longer than it would with a 21g or 21 guage needle. Instead of a few seconds, it could take 2-3 minutes. Few people have the patience to do this. But few people realize that you are not required to actively pull on the plunger for the full 2-3 minutes to fill the syringe. You are only required to draw waiting long enough to start the flow of oil into the syringe. You can then pull the plunger back to the desired fill point and set the vial on its side and go do something else. You can then return a few minutes later and the syringe will be filled and ready to use.
The optimal method of injecting steroids is not necessarily the most convenient. However, for those bodybuilders interested in optimizing every aspect of their pharmacological endeavors, there are several benefits to using insulin syringes for steroid injections.
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Hevi-head
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Don't do it that way, back feed it.
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Are those luer lock, fit on any 3 cc syringe?
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I draw with a 20 gauge in a 3cc syringe then take the plunger out of the slin pin and fill it where the plunger goes in. The oil doesn't run out out of the needle til you squeeze it out with the plunger.
It may not be 100% sanitary but I'll use the same draw pin a few times and have never had an issue. I just wipe the top of the vial with alcohol.
I'm the same, I learn something everyday here on the boards
You wouldn't draw with those, just pin. Smaller needle = less scar tissue
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ketsugo
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Funny calfs is the ONLY place I pin and I pin daily- I guess when your cows are monstrous LOL like mine you cant feel it
ketsugo
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It depends on your gear- Some sponsors are able to use ingredients that will flow through slin pin.
Most NOT- personally I save my drawing pin as it never touches my skin- usually 18G I can pull anything no matter how dense, then I switch to smaller I can use anything from 25G to 27G USUALLY . Ive yet to utilize sponsor that all his gear will flow through slin pin- If you guys find one let me know as that would make life easy LOL
Also make sure your pin is long enough to go deep, sometimes too shallow it gets caught up and you can develop absecess or just huge oil filled pustule. Im sure you know to toss any used pins , use alchohol swab for hygenic reasons- you get abscess and you will understand LOL Good Luck
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fuck i am acting like a lil girl about this, was only able to pick up 30g just 10 of them for now, then place a huge order for pinz small and big ones, but all they had was 27g, so i pick up 100, now if i hit my chest, no flexing the muscle right? just let it sit and inject?
any certain spot you recommend doing there?
27g is still good enough to use for chest? if i pussy out on my chest, quads then.
any certain spot you recommend doing there?
27g is still good enough to use for chest? if i pussy out on my chest, quads then.
