High Dose Test w/o HgH + Probiotics = Worthless?

[xxplosive]

After running Test E at 750-1000mg a week for a year and even with var, tren and masteron struggling to not look a tiny bit fluffy around the middle (with no added muscle mass benefits), I have by default seen that I make better gains, look WAY better, and feel better running test no higher than 375mg a week, and 150mg (prop) or (250mg Enan/cyp) even better.

I understand its a different ballgame with the muscle hyperplasia combined with HgH, as well as probiotics to even be able to digest 300+ grams of protein daily...

But does anyone else see NO added benefits of running Test high and a world of difference in letting other compounds do their job?

Test IS a necessity for Gear 101 reasons... but when will this dumb high test craze and misinformation end?

**I say tbis aware that we all have different chemical make up and respond to doses differently.

 

[Chemicallyengineered]

I believe a lot of factors go into dosing. Cycle history, lean body mass because the more muscle you carry the more receptors you have available to activate, diet because no matter what you take if you aren't meeting caloric surplus needs(which increase with every pound you add) you aren't going to grow. Also the human body will always fight to not continue to add mass as you progress through a cycle by increasing cortisol. When gains hault you have two options 1. Is to cycle off and put and allow cortisol to return to lower levels so you can then again add your gear and be in an anabolic state again or 2. Escalate dose and/add compounds.



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[Chemicallyengineered]

I was always told rule of thumb for gaining as far as food intake goes was 20 calories per pound of goal weight. I.e. If I want to weight 240 I better be eating 4800 calories per day. I know for me 4800 calories is damn near impossible.



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[Chemicallyengineered]

As far as gear dosing I've run up as high as 2000 mgs of test at the peak of a blast and the first time I broke 1000 and got to 1500 the difference in appetite and drive was very apparent to me. Then to eclipse that and hit 2000mgs was even better. Strength was ridiculous as well as my appetite which has always been a major factor in how far I could progress. Unfortunately those high dose blasts were always mixed with at least another injectable or two and some sort of oral so the higher doses were not something I could financially sustain and hence were only for short peaks amongst a slightly lowers dosed period and eventually a cruising period. After twenty years of cycling ten of which have been blast and cruise, 500mgs won't do shit for me but maintain what I have.


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[NOSNMIVEINS]

I'm a huge advocate for keeping test levels lower and running everything else higher. Test is there to keep me normal and everything working as it should. I let/want the other compounds to do the work.

 

[Poohbear]

Everybody is a little different but some point ur just wasting gear . U just have to find the sweet spot for ur body . I never run high test with other compounds but that's me , I'm frim believer that most people's body can only take 2 mgs of hormone per body pound per week . some people push it 2 4mgs per body pound But I,don't believe there a gains for,the cost myself .But im,sure there will be some that disagree with this . All this is in my opinion of course.

 

[xxplosive]

Even with calories/protein high on high test... after 3 or 4 days of eating that much, i simply get bloated and my body can't process the additional calories and protein.

I've been on for 3 years now and STILL respond to lower doses that most would call a cruise.

After 400mg or so.... it seems like I can't benefit from the additional mass and my fat loss efforts get stuck in the mud.

For future mass blasts, i may not go above low test and just jack up my Nandrolone or EQ dosage