HGH after one week

[testboner]

Gymratt, I see your sense of disrespect from Sweeney, but please simmer down the drama level a few notches — that was quite a rant for something that could have been shortened up.

And to everyone; I’ve raved about the quality of Giant GH and will continue to while it’s the level of quality it has been for the year I’ve been using it. I’ve been on the forums for 20 years, used AAS for 30+ years, and have used all sorts of GH extensively. I would not say it is thee best generic presently available if it wasn’t — and add kick ass service on top of that!
Some very very sensitive and frail emotions getting a bit loose on here fellas.

Gymratt seems to have scared some people with the vid and info he shared, and then others have some vulnerable thin skin. Let’s simmer down.
And AGAIN: Giant GH is superb quality, and is not nearly as fragile in powder form as some apparently are concerned about.

 

[Gymrattt1]

That video had nothing to do with giant, and everything to do with helping members make a good decision in regards to the unpredictable products that China has been putting on the market, and my post was void of emotion direct on point regarding his actions, what he did was deliberate and undermining. Again!, my intentions are and always have been genuine with NOTHING about my CHARACTER being frail, and he still has not apologized for his blatant actions which speaks volumes. His attempt to cover up his actions was foiled by giant returning his post, and his pm to me this morning hoping to keep his efforts on the down low, knowing good and well what he has done. He has lost all respect with his childish and more importantly DISHONEST actions.

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[BobbySweeney]

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

GymRat1, what the hell?

Where was I disrespectful?
I posted a link to the video because Giant is “the source” on this board for HGH. I wanted him to give his response to that video. I’ve got 4 kits of Giant and I wanted Giant to offer his insight on this video. Asking a sponsor to respond to something like this is “not starting crap”.
The whole reason I PMed you and everyone else was to keep personal opinions about the product out of the thread.


What am I missing that is disrespectful and/or has pissed you off so much?
Nowhere did I claim that you said Giant’s stuff was shit, or anything like that.
I think you skimmed too fast and got the wrong idea about some very, very open threads with Giant.


D-Red, did I fuck up here or are people blowing this way out of proportion?

 

[testboner]

It’s blown out of proportion. Sweeney, I get your concern and I didn’t interpret your concerns of generics to be focused exclusively on Giant’s product.
I also see that Gymratt carries a sense of deserving (expecting) respect, and confident in his position on things. There seems to be some level of sensitive misunderstanding, a bit of ego.
Whatever the case, no drama necessary. Everything’s been addressed, and happy to have seen Giant share some details with us themselves. Excellent quality, service, source.

 

[Gymrattt1]

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

GymRat1, what the hell?

Where was I disrespectful?
I posted a link to the video because Giant is “the source” on this board for HGH. I wanted him to give his response to that video. I’ve got 4 kits of Giant and I wanted Giant to offer his insight on this video. Asking a sponsor to respond to something like this is “not starting crap”.
The whole reason I PMed you and everyone else was to keep personal opinions about the product out of the thread.


What am I missing that is disrespectful and/or has pissed you off so much?
Nowhere did I claim that you said Giant’s stuff was shit, or anything like that.
I think you skimmed too fast and got the wrong idea about some very, very open threads with Giant.


D-Red, did I fuck up here or are people blowing this way out of proportion?

OK, if you say your actions weren't meant to make me look like I was trying to discredit a respected source I'll except that, but you look at this from my perspective and then you can see my point. It had a undermining feel, but I'm willing to take your word for it, it's cool bro!,
After all I preach brotherhood more than anyone, its all good!!!

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[Hevi-head]

Just my 2 cents amidst all the confusion, Giants GH is top notch stuff and you can’t go wrong with it.

 

[Gymrattt1]

Natedog!, brother please clear your pm post limit, I need to send you dosage information on the prescription Meds, thanks bro, regards

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[BobbySweeney]

OK, if you say your actions weren't meant to make me look like I was trying to discredit a respected source I'll except that, but you look at this from my perspective and then you can see my point. It had a undermining feel, but I'm willing to take your word for it, it's cool bro!

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I get it.

You should know that this was purely about answering this:

“Gymrat’s video checks out science wise, and google backs up everything . So how in the hell/why are Giant’s HGH vials showing results and decent bloodwork? They are from China. These two things contradict each other, so let’s ask him to explain it. “

Then Giant answered us all with, basically, “we try to keep them cold during the whole process”.

And there’s our answer. Draw your own conclusions about what could happen in the summer months and/or what could be done about it.


I think if you saw my other threads you’d understand I am just “to the point” with sources. I don’t pussy foot around the hard questions.
Giant chose to answer the question and face it.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I got no beef with anyone here, at all. I just didn't like the video, lol!! It was almost like fox news live!!! Fast forwarded thru it.... wasn't impressed with way 2 guys presented themselves.

Hgh or any peptide and heat degrading is old news, it's nothing new. I order when a cool front is coming and in summer ask for insulted packing or stock before!! I make sure it's not sitting outside. But for most part there are many ways hgh can get here without heat degrading.

We can what if all day long and the point is these are generics not Pharma, meaning they are priced fraction of cost....

The same goes with Pharma overseas hgh dry powder or any other peptide. Being genetics cheaper most guys run 3-5iu as opposed to 2-3 Pharma. Not because Pharma is better by that much, maybe it is, but instead it's feesable to run more generics!!!

As said had hgh going back and forth until I straighten out the wrong # I put last summer, it still was g2g I would say I am using it now, lol!!!

About a test and labs I will on 10iu both brands as soon as I get a chance I am nailed with job, behind on paperwork for tickets invoice to be paid, and can't make it to baseball most days after work.

So just by co-incidence I am using another brand hgh atm that bounced around last summer and haven't regressed at all. I still have couple giant kits but I use up my stock before 1 year always. I keep in fridge dry and mixed of course.

For starters hgh isn't gear, what it does has to be appriciated. Leaning, healing, and well being. I don't wanna grow into a mutant I just want benifits!!

I still don't know what the break thru was about in video, and Chinese hgh shouldn't be pointed at. Tell me where are Pharma hgh products here manufactured??? I don't know but who knows where really.

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[Sharks1989]

I get it.

You should know that this was purely about answering this:

“Gymrat’s video checks out science wise, and google backs up everything . So how in the hell/why are Giant’s HGH vials showing results and decent bloodwork? They are from China. These two things contradict each other, so let’s ask him to explain it. “

Then Giant answered us all with, basically, “we try to keep them cold during the whole process”.

And there’s our answer. Draw your own conclusions about what could happen in the summer months and/or what could be done about it.


I think if you saw my other threads you’d understand I am just “to the point” with sources. I don’t pussy foot around the hard questions.
Giant chose to answer the question and face it.

I will chime in and say if he were to ship it cold who's to say it wouldn't be damaged due to handling during shipping?

You see Sweeny regardless of how Giant ships it, there's that possibility it could become damaged, or degraded. Giant explained their process, also stated it would last 20 days without degrading being at room temperature so not sure why you're still worked up about it.

If Giant ships it cold it still could get damaged during handeling according to gymrats video that's posted. So no matter how you look at it, according to your posts and concerns there's no win win here. But I personally see nothing wrong with how Giant handles his business.

If testboner, Roc, muscle mechanic, gymrat and myself have been using Giants hgh, and nothing negative has been said at all from any of us then apparently there's nothing at all wrong with how Giant ships his products.

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[Gymrattt1]

I got no beef with anyone here, at all. I just didn't like the video, lol!! It was almost like fox news live!!! Fast forwarded thru it.... wasn't impressed with way 2 guys presented themselves.

Hgh or any peptide and heat degrading is old news, it's nothing new. I order when a cool front is coming and in summer ask for insulted packing or stock before!! I make sure it's not sitting outside. But for most part there are many ways hgh can get here without heat degrading.

We can what if all day long and the point is these are generics not Pharma, meaning they are priced fraction of cost....

The same goes with Pharma overseas hgh dry powder or any other peptide. Being genetics cheaper most guys run 3-5iu as opposed to 2-3 Pharma. Not because Pharma is better by that much, maybe it is, but instead it's feesable to run more generics!!!

As said had hgh going back and forth until I straighten out the wrong # I put last summer, it still was g2g I would say I am using it now, lol!!!

About a test and labs I will on 10iu both brands as soon as I get a chance I am nailed with job, behind on paperwork for tickets invoice to be paid, and can't make it to baseball most days after work.

So just by co-incidence I am using another brand hgh atm that bounced around last summer and haven't regressed at all. I still have couple giant kits but I use up my stock before 1 year always. I keep in fridge dry and mixed of course.

For starters hgh isn't gear, what it does has to be appriciated. Leaning, healing, and well being. I don't wanna grow into a mutant I just want benifits!!

I still don't know what the break thru was about in video, and Chinese hgh shouldn't be pointed at. Tell me where are Pharma hgh products here manufactured??? I don't know but who knows where really.

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Wrong video!!

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[Muscle mechanic]

Wrong video!!

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It's all good. Don't stress any of it. What ever the deal everyone just panicked....
Nothing wrong with awareness. I just sort of ranted at concerns and posted on opinion!! Lol!! But heat degrading old news no need anyone panicked and know u didn't. But anyone who did it's alright!
Guilty using Tren and couldn't sleep.. lol!!

To make lite if this all movie on Netflix called Vanished or maybe it's on something else. About kidnapped kid...
It's a trip and had my interests!! Check it out!!!

Anything discussed in PM should be respected and understand both ways. It shouldn't be used but we can't be walked on. So understand your point and also both sides of it all.
[MENTION=2489]Gymrattt1[/MENTION] brings alot to board and he is an asset but at end of day we all listen and can't blame he said or u know!!! PM stays in PM but if I had to I would state my side of story like I saw!!



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[1977_Corvette]

A good video from my friend guru ameen on pharmaceutical grade hgh and Chinese generic, detailed comparison and effects, heat degeneration, storage, and more from an expert IFBB coach. On point info. https://youtu.be/-2QbdB2Uezs

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Interesting video. I do remember seeing one of the bigger if not the biggest sponsor for Chinese HGH respond to the heat question by saying his HGH was freeze dried, which negated the need for it to be shipped cold. Not sure if this is possible but I have a fridge full of his kits I've been waiting to try, I guess we will see if the results are worth the price.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Interesting video. I do remember seeing one of the bigger if not the biggest sponsor for Chinese HGH respond to the heat question by saying his HGH was freeze dried, which negated the need for it to be shipped cold. Not sure if this is possible but I have a fridge full of his kits I've been waiting to try, I guess we will see if the results are worth the price.

Reason order domestic....

When u go fishing u keep caught on on ice??

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[Hevi-head]

Interesting video. I do remember seeing one of the bigger if not the biggest sponsor for Chinese HGH respond to the heat question by saying his HGH was freeze dried, which negated the need for it to be shipped cold. Not sure if this is possible but I have a fridge full of his kits I've been waiting to try, I guess we will see if the results are worth the price.

You’ve got more willpower then me. No way I’d be able to wait to try

 

[Gymrattt1]

Interesting video. I do remember seeing one of the bigger if not the biggest sponsor for Chinese HGH respond to the heat question by saying his HGH was freeze dried, which negated the need for it to be shipped cold. Not sure if this is possible but I have a fridge full of his kits I've been waiting to try, I guess we will see if the results are worth the price.

Yea 77, I really haven't given it much thought until the last 24 hours, me and ameen were the original dealers of humatrope back in the day, I had a family member on my wife's side who was a rep for Eli Lilly makers of humatrope and we were selling hundred of kits out the back door because they were snagged before the labels (lot numbers) were put on, before they were even inventoried and they were supposed to be refrigerated until mixing, the American pharmaceutical companies patent the technology and unless China has invented a new technology than its the exact same freeze dried technology, I prescribe norditropin and haven't even gave it much thought lately, I was given 8 giant kits for payment owed to me by a friend of mine and ran it between cycles at 3.3 iu for anti catabolic reasons and I seen good results, it was refrigerated the entire time. As long as everyone is confident with their results then that's all you can ask for, my norditropin pens can be left at room temperature for 20 days because of the pre mixed vacuum solution that has patent technology, like I said I really haven't given it much thought in years.

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[1977_Corvette]

Yea 77, I really haven't given it much thought until the last 24 hours, me and ameen were the original dealers of humatrope back in the day, I had a family member who was a rep for Eli Lilly makers of humatrope and we were selling hundred of kits out the back door because they were snagged before the labels (lot numbers) were put on, before they were even inventoried and they were supposed to be refrigerated until mixing, the American pharmaceutical companies patent the technology and unless China has invented a new technology than its the exact same freeze dried technology, I prescribe norditropin and haven't even gave it much thought lately, I was given 8 giant kits for payment owed to me by a friend of mine and ran it between cycles at 3.3 iu for anti catabolic reasons and I seen good results, it was refrigerated the entire time. As long as everyone is confident with their results then that's all you can ask for, my norditropin pens can be left at room temperature for 20 days because of the pre mixed vacuum solution that has patent technology, like I said I really haven't given it much thought in years.



That video, IMO, is very black and white, the amen guy is flat out saying generics are NOT real human growth but some mix of peptides that quickly spike igf levels to fool tests but can't sustain IGF levels to cause any type of real enhancement ( he said that in the comments). I really don't know and these debates are great for the forums but they become a little cumbersome to a avg gym guy like me. I've been training natty for the last year it's kind of a relief just lifting and trying to make some small gains and not worry about if every bottle of ass or Hgh is real or not. Like I said, I have probably 20 kits of high end generics in my fridge that I'll test out in the near future for the first time and I'll base my value of generics off that I guess.

 

[1977_Corvette]

Reason order domestic....

When u go fishing u keep caught on on ice??

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not local and not on ice, about 12 days to catch my fish

 

[1977_Corvette]

You’ve got more willpower then me. No way I’d be able to wait to try

I've been hoarding like a squirrel since early last year, I really don't know what to expect but wanted to get training and diet dialed for about a yearin before hopping on for good, no ass either since 2017, so I'll get a good idea of the generic Hgh is worth the price.

 

[Gymrattt1]

Yea 77, I really haven't given it much thought until the last 24 hours, me and ameen were the original dealers of humatrope back in the day, I had a family member who was a rep for Eli Lilly makers of humatrope and we were selling hundred of kits out the back door because they were snagged before the labels (lot numbers) were put on, before they were even inventoried and they were supposed to be refrigerated until mixing, the American pharmaceutical companies patent the technology and unless China has invented a new technology than its the exact same freeze dried technology, I prescribe norditropin and haven't even gave it much thought lately, I was given 8 giant kits for payment owed to me by a friend of mine and ran it between cycles at 3.3 iu for anti catabolic reasons and I seen good results, it was refrigerated the entire time. As long as everyone is confident with their results then that's all you can ask for, my norditropin pens can be left at room temperature for 20 days because of the pre mixed vacuum solution that has patent technology, like I said I really haven't given it much thought in years.



That video, IMO, is very black and white, the amen guy is flat out saying generics are NOT real human growth but some mix of peptides that quickly spike igf levels to fool tests but can't sustain IGF levels to cause any type of real enhancement ( he said that in the comments). I really don't know and these debates are great for the forums but they become a little cumbersome to a avg gym guy like me. I've been training natty for the last year it's kind of a relief just lifting and trying to make some small gains and not worry about if every bottle of as or Hgh is real or not. Like I said, I have probably 20 kits of high end kits in my fridge that I'll test out in the near future for the first time and I'll base by value of generics off that I guess.

keep us posted on the results brother, definitely an intriguing topic for the forum, I probably could reach out to my suppliers and get some definitive answers, I'm just so busy as of late. But good luck!

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