HGH after one week

Blacktail

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Ok call me nuts but I have last 4 lbs of what looks like fat in a week on 2iu a day. I have not changed any eating or training, only added the HGH. Is it possible because I'm 48 that the HGH is have an impact so soon? I know everyone is different but has anyone else experienced such a fast reaction? Oh and I'm on 450mg prop M,W,F along with 300mg NPP.
 
Ok call me nuts but I have last 4 lbs of what looks like fat in a week on 2iu a day. I have not changed any eating or training, only added the HGH. Is it possible because I'm 48 that the HGH is have an impact so soon? I know everyone is different but has anyone else experienced such a fast reaction? Oh and I'm on 450mg prop M,W,F along with 300mg NPP.
Very first pin I slept all night. That's not normal for me at all. Very deep sleep since I've been on hgh. Fat loss wise I'd say it's kicking in decently, I'm 4 weeks in, definitely lost some BF but my diets always good also.

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People metabolize compounds at diff rates- I'm feeling and seeing primo e in a few days, test prop later the same day, npp next, orals pretty much in 15-20 min.

I know multiple people who in junior college who off just 1iu of gh made strides in a month.
 
Ok call me nuts but I have last 4 lbs of what looks like fat in a week on 2iu a day. I have not changed any eating or training, only added the HGH. Is it possible because I'm 48 that the HGH is have an impact so soon? I know everyone is different but has anyone else experienced such a fast reaction? Oh and I'm on 450mg prop M,W,F along with 300mg NPP.
No brother, it's impossible for any drug to metabolize 4 lbs of fat in a week, large reductions on a scale are attributed to sodium/calorie intake or cardio. getting a DEXA scan of your body composition before hgh is a good idea for comparison with one after cycling to determine exact muscle /fat loss. I consult hundreds of my patients who are on hgh /hrt who do not exercise and even after 8 weeks there is only a slight difference in body composition. My bb patients are training and doing cardio in conjunction with gear and hgh so it's impossible to determine which compound is having the most impact. Sodium /potassium will exert the largest effect on the body on a daily basis, also the body will fluctuate in fluids from day to day, a DEXA scan is recommended to ultimately determine exact body composition.

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Also an anti estrogen would effect the scale much faster from the reduced fluid and drying out of the body including the joints. Steroids have a direct impact on the kidneys which control the fluid in the body, a short ester like prop and npp will have a big impact on kidney effects from metabolizing the compound faster and causing the kidneys to not function properly ,this is common with nandrolone base, npp and all short esters especially trenbolone ace and trenbolone base. This effect is greatly increased in older athletes who have age related reduced kidney (GFR) function. Hgh will effect fat loss far greater than any compound over time, and one of the biggest bro science beliefs is that steroids burns pounds of fat, nothing can be further from the truth, certain steroids effect fat loss in terms of ounces and are used to polish off an already lean body. Using winstrol and anavar to metabolize 20 lbs of fat is absolutely nonsense, diet and Cardio will metabolize the fat off, and then a lean body will show the quality results that winstrol and anavar provide. You don't drug off fat with steroids.

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That's what I found strange, I have not changed my eating or drinking and have not added or removed any other compounds. Just added HGH. I totally believe you, I just don't have an idea as to why.
 
And I did not know that NPP or deca would effect your kidneys anymore that test!
Most definitely friend, 19 nor compounds (nandrolone and trenbolone) are very hard on the kidney in the short esters and the longer esters are safer , a short ester will make the kidneys work much harder because they are metabolizing the total milligrams in a few days compared to a few weeks in a long ester compound. I use strictly short esters and keep a close eye on my kidney function with blood work every 3 months.

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Ok well that would answer my question if NPP would be a good idea to take for 16 or more weeks.
 
Ok well that would answer my question if NPP would be a good idea to take for 16 or more weeks.
No, not good bro, but switching to a safer compound like primo or eq will greatly reduce the effect on the kidneys, blood work before and after cycling will show the kidney impact of NPP and other compounds especially orals. I use only short esters and my kidney function drops monthly, but don't get alarmed this is common with 19 nor compounds. 16 week cycles are only advisable with primo and eq upon results from good blood work before starting.

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Don't forget the dramatic cholesterol effects of nandrolone in a 16 week cycle, could be a serious problem for anyone who has chronic cholesterol problems or high blood pressure. Nandrolone is a harsh compound, also because of the high binding affinity nandrolone will downgrade after about 8 weeks, so a 16 week run would result in the last 8 weeks of little gains and high side effects. 10 weeks is plenty of time to add muscle to your body will npp and the risk of side effects past 10 weeks is not a good idea.

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Don't forget the dramatic cholesterol effects of nandrolone in a 16 week cycle, could be a serious problem for anyone who has chronic cholesterol problems or high blood pressure. Nandrolone is a harsh compound, also because of the high binding affinity nandrolone will downgrade after about 8 weeks, so a 16 week run would result in the last 8 weeks of little gains and high side effects. 10 weeks is plenty of time to add muscle to your body will npp and the risk of side effects past 10 weeks is not a good idea.

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Should i not run NPP then on my next run?

Would low test and just high dhb + inj winstrol be a better idea?

Everyone always said nandrolone was a "mild" compound.
 
Nandrolone has never been considered mild throughout the history of bb and sports medicine. It can only be considered mild as to the liver toxicity as most steroids are generally considered. Toxic steroids are anadrol, d-bol, trenbolone, superdrol halotestin methyltestosterone, and methyl trenbolone. Nandrolone is not considered to be toxic, and has many benefits and advantages but needs to be used with caution and detailed blood work is advised before using. Nandrolone has numerous side effects and are magnified over time and higher doses. The kidneys are only effected with the SHORT ester NPP and NOT DECA DURABOLIN because the entire dose of the npp is metabolized in a few days compared to a few weeks with of deca making the kidneys work much harder and this shows on blood work. Nandrolone will completely shut down the natural hormone axis and has been known to cause impotence with chronic abuse (impotence isn't mild). Deca dick is a serious problem for anyone, nandrolone will dramatically effect the lipids (cholesterol) and cause high blood pressure, every aspect of blood work is effected from estrogen, progestin, lipoprotein, c reactive protein (inflammation),high cortisol, gyno, lactate issues, and high red blood cells. Mild compounds are primo, anavar, eq and somewhat winstrol in the Injectable, the oral is liver toxic, these are considered mild and safe for women and nandrolone could NEVER be considered SAFE for a WOMAN (would fuck her up big time). Nandrolone could never be considered mild. Short esters will put extra strain on the kidneys, the long esters are milder and safe for the kidneys because the dose is spread out over weeks. The most important side effect is calcium deposits (plaque build up) in the arteries, all forms of nandrolone have a large impact on the heart and arteries over all other compounds, nandrolone is a hands off steroid for anyone who has heart disease or a family history of heart related illnesses. Blood work is an absolute must for any bb considering cycling if your over 35 years of age, there are many steroids far worse than nandrolone but it should be given its due respect and kept to short cycles with blood work and a calcium arterial score test before and after. Here is another doctor's video evaluation of deca. And a clinical study proving arterial plaque to be caused by nandrolone.
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Nandrolone has never been considered mild throughout the history of bb and sports medicine. It can only be considered mild as to the liver toxicity as most steroids are generally considered. Toxic steroids are anadrol, d-bol, trenbolone, superdrol l,halotestin methyltestosterone, and methyl trenbolone. Nandrolone is not considered to be toxic. Nandrolone has numerous side effects and is considered to be used with caution, and it's side effects are magnified over time and dose. The kidneys are only effected with the SHORT ester NPP and NOT DECA DURABOLIN because the entire dose of the npp is metabolized in a few days compared to a few weeks with of deca making the kidneys work much harder and this shows on blood work. Nandrolone will completely shut down the natural hormone axis and has been known to cause impotence with chronic abuse (impotence isn't mild). Deca dick is a serious problem for anyone, nandrolone will dramatically effect the lipids (cholesterol) and cause high blood pressure, every aspect of blood work is effected from estrogen, progestin, lipoprotein, c reactive protein (inflammation),high cortisol, gyno, lactate issues, and high red blood cells. Mild compounds are primo, anavar, eq and somewhat winstrol in the Injectable, the oral is liver toxic, these are considered mild and safe for women and nandrolone could NEVER be considered SAFE for a WOMAN (would fuck her up big time). Nandrolone could never be considered mild. Short esters will put extra strain on the kidneys, the long esters are milder and safe for the kidneys because the dose is spread out over weeks. The most important side effect is calcium deposits (plaque build up) in the arteries, all forms of nandrolone have a large impact on the heart and arteries over all other compounds, nandrolone is a hands off steroid for anyone who has heart disease or a family history of heart related illnesses. Blood work is an absolute must for any bb considering cycling if your over 35 years of age, there are many steroids far worse than nandrolone but it should be given its due respect and kept to short cycles with blood work and a calcium arterial score test before and after. Here is another doctor's video evaluation of deca. And a clinical study proving arterial plaque to be caused by nandrolone. https://youtu.be/3wlxvVpBid4
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...ry_arteries_of_female_cynomolgus_macaques/amp
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Do you think it's better if i just dont run nandrolone at all this run and stick to low test, mod/high dhb and inj winny?

Or just run it for a month to kick start and then drop it?
 
A good video with coach treavor and Dr huge reading blood work of nandrolone, kidney problems, estrogen, prolactin, low sex drive off gear, the importance of blood work before and after cycling, and more.

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Awesome information!
Are all short esters in the same boat ass nap as far as kidney issues
Blacktail, there are several compounds that can be used in a short ester format that are healthy. I use all short esters exclusively and without question they are more effective and a more advanced cycling protocol. You just need to take awareness of the kidney impact, if you are in excellent health and are on top of your blood work you can expect excellent results in mass gains while remaining in good health and a undisciplined athlete avoiding blood work is asking for trouble , as a former pro bodybuilder I have relied on short esters and base compounds exclusively to build my body. Compounds like primo, boldenone, dhb, and anavar are considered mild but all Steroids have a negative impact on the health, it is just to what extent. Short esters including nandrolone can definitely be an effective compound for mass but needs monitoring for reasons that I have outlined, nandrolone is one of my favorite compounds and still a base in all my cycling protocol, being a physician I can monitor my blood work monthly to detail negative effects. The kidneys are very important as they don't regenerate like the liver and cannot heal itself. The extreme load from the short esters releasing all the milligrams in a few days is difficult for older athletes or bodybuilders to recover from because of age related kidney function decline. Short esters are far more effective for adding muscle but a bb needs to be on point with his blood work with the heart related issues being the most important factor. Any bb over 35 needs a coronary calcium score exam and a heart echo to determine arterial health. A healthy bb (heart and kidneys) especially can use nandrolone for its amazing results for short term cycles and a long esterd compound without any worries of kidney damage, but the plaque build up needs monitoring. Keep the cycles short and switching to other safer compounds mid cycle will yield excellent results, ultimately blood work is a must for the beginner to advanced bodybuilder or athlete in general.

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Here is a video of my friend (guru) ameen using my sodium to potassium loading techniques on his clients that I used during my bb career, I taught ameen these techniques back in the day (also using my anadrol loading protocol for maximum glycogen uptake into the cells before a contest) and it illustrates just how much the body will fluctuate from hour to hour in regards to fluid, and the effects from hgh and other compounds on the body, thus making scale weight insignificant. It's all about what you see in the mirror with a full and dry look and this is achieved from knowledge of mineral osmosis and steroid metabolism (medical science) from compound to compound ,enjoy.

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