Generic HGH worth it?

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Ill be the first to admit I know NOTHING about HGH. Pharma, Generic, tops colors or name differences. It has however been recently recommended for my wife at 2iu’s daily. Pharma HGH is out due to cost. Ive read a bit recently and have seen a lot of comments that generic is worthless as it is not available biologically to the body and is rejected by the bodies foreign body defenses. Can someone show me one way or the other what the truth is here? Every pin is a danger to her as she is recovering from a massive MRSA infection. The process to pin her is exhausting but I will be glad to do it for her to help her attain her goals. What say you all.....

 

[TheMuscleMan]

Hgh is a hard one bro because the majority that would be in an affordable price range will be generic. Not all generics are bad though it's just getting the good ones that will be the hard part. First you have to know your source for them and read reviews on them and take the gamble based on the info you have and reviews you read. The ones you want are 191AA sequence, the bad ones that your body will fight are 192AA sequence and will itch and burn and leave a hard lump and turn the injection site red. You can hunt around for someone who get pharmacy grade hgh from aids patients who sell them for cash, they will cost a pretty penny but they are 100% real and gives you a piece of mind knowing they are good. The color top on generics don't mean nothing as I have seen fakes of all color tops and even embossed and engraved tops, so don't go only by color top, you have to do some looking and reading and take a chance on generics.

Thanks
TMM

 

[01dragonslayer]

Interesting info....


HGH caps/tops: Which color is the best?

Answer:

When HGH is referred to by the color of the vial caps it's usually generic growth hormone made by various labs in China. There are not more than a handful certified labs, capable of producing real 191 amino acid sequence somatropin. The necessary lab equipment to produce the HGH is a multi million dollar investment - unreachable for a "bathtub" steroid lab. Furthermore, the required know how includes genetic manipulation of E.Coli bacteria which then secrete the human version of growth hormone. When somatropin is harvested, the bacteria have to be filtered out, which is a very difficult undertaking.

So which color of HGH tops to buy?

Trying to distinguish the generic HGH by the color of the caps is like trying to judge people by the color of their jackets. The color of the caps can freely and easily be switched from batch to batch. This results in endless bodybuilding forum discussions where people report good and bad results from blue tops, green tops, red tops, yellow tops, etc.

If buying generic HGH, the only way to really make sure that what you are about to use will not bring damage to your body is to lab test it beforehand. There are two types of tests you can do. Either a complete lab analysis of the substance (done by a lab capable of performing the test) or using your body as a guinea pig, injecting a full vial and performing a HGH/IGF serum test. See the "Real of fake HGH? How to test it?" page for more info.

Beware of the 192 amino acid sequence GH (Somatrem)

It is less difficult (and cheaper) to produce the 192 amino acid mimic, which is technically not really somatropin. The difference is 1 additional methionyl amino acid attached to the sequence. While generally the effects of using the 192 aa somatrem are similar to somatropin treatment, the different molecule can bring about serious health issues. It is possible that the body's immune system detects the somatrem as foreign and attacks it. Because the foreign 192 and body's own 191 amino acid hormones are very similar, it can lead to the body attacking it's own HGH as well. This autoimmune condition would leave a person without growth hormone - which the body needs for regeneration, metabolism and various important functions.

Beware of the Low purity HGH containing bacterial residue

It is very improbable for a small lab to be capable of extracting the somatropin without bacterial residue in it. Injecting a low purity HGH it often produces painful red welts around injection spot - which is a good indication that the body's immune system has detected the bacterial residue as foreign and is mounting an attack. Potentially this can also lead to the body rejecting it's own naturally produced growth hormone which then leads to serious health issues.

History of colors of the HGH tops

Before the existence of generic HGH labs in China, the yellow tops were used by Jintropin (GeneScience Pharmaceuticals), blue tops were used by Hypertropin (Neogenica Bioscience) and green tops were used for Igtropin (IGF-1 long R3).

In 2007, both Jintropin and Hypertropin switched to using green color caps. Igtropin (IGF-1) was renamed to Revitropin and the color of caps was changed to blue. A few years later Revitropin was renamed to IGF3 and has since been using the red caps.

Brand name embedded in the cap

Some labs have periodically used the name of their brand printed on the vial caps. This has lately been abandoned by most because it can easily be copied and also limits the company's ability to distribute their products under OEM brand names.

 

[01dragonslayer]

More interesting info....


Which is the best human growth hormone?

Answer:

There is no such thing as "the best HGH" the substance is either real growth hormone (somatropin) or it is NOT! Human growth hormone is a very fragile, large molecule which is comprised of 191 amino acids, linked in very specific order and shaped to very specific form. In that regard there is no room for differences!

Note: It is NOT POSSIBLE to take human growth hormone as a supplement in spray, pill or sticker patch form! Sprays, pills and patches are marketing scams used by the supplement pushers. The growth hormone molecule is too fragile to survive room temperatures or vigorous shaking. It is also too big to pass through the skin. If you read the fine print you will usually find a note that there is no actual growth hormone but rather "growth hormone promoter" which is supposed to make your body produce more of its own growth hormone.

There are some things that set the actual HGH brands apart though:

it can either be real 191 amino acid sequence ( somatropin), or it can be 192 amino acid sequence (somatrem) which is actually a growth hormone mimic with potentially nasty side effects
it can be pure high quality HGH (comes at a higher price), or it can be cheaply produced and contain bacterial residue left over from the manufacturing process
it can be bought through a doctors prescription (high price), or it can be bought on the black market (in which case you have to be extra careful as most of the brands are counterfeit, containing hgh of questionable origin if it's real at all). If buying from a non reputable source, you should always have the HGH lab tested
it can be produced in USA / EU (comes at absurdly high prices due to big pharma monopoly of the western markets), or it can be produced in Asia (China, Korea, India, etc.) in which case there are quality/purity differences from brand to brand
it can be in liquid form (very fragile, sensitive to room temperatures and shaking) or it can be in lyophilized - freeze dried powder form (suitable for shipping world wide). Never buy liquid form on the black market because there is no way of knowing how it was handled before you got it
it can be authentic (contains what it claims), or it can be counterfeit in which case scammers relabel vials of questionable origin and make them look like original, then offer them at "too good to be true" prices to lure in the victims
various brands come at differently dosed vials. The dosage/strength per vial can be 4IU, 10IU, 12IU, 40IU which does not really matter as long as the price per IU is right



So which is the best HGH?

To recap the above differences - growth hormone can be either real or not, high purity or low purity, western or asian priced, liquid or freeze dried and it comes packed in differently dosed vials. The best growth hormone would then obviously be the high purity, 191 amino acid sequence, freeze dried, original and realistically priced one.

High quality brands:

Genotropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by Pfizer, Inc, USA)
Humatrope (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by Eli Lilly and Company, USA)
Hypertropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by Neogenica Bioscience Ltd, China)
Jintropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by GeneScience Pharmaceuticals Co., Ltd, China)
Norditropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by Novo Nordisk Inc, USA)
Nutropin (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by Genentech USA, Inc, USA)
Saizen (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by EMD Serono, Inc, USA)
Serostim (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by EMD Serono, Inc, USA)
Zorbtive (191 amino acid, high purity, produced by EMD Serono, Inc, USA)

Medium quality brands:

Ansomone (used to be 192 but is now 191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by Anhui Anke Biotechnology Co., Ltd, China)
Hygetropin (191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by Zhongshan Hygene Biopharm Co., Ltd, China)
Tev-Tropin (191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by Teva Pharmaceuticals, USA)
Zomacton (191 amino acid, medium purity, produced by Ferring Pharmaceuticals Pty Ltd, Australia)

Low or questionable quality brands:

Fitropin (this product has been discontinued, it was produced by Shenzhen Kexing Biotech Co., Ltd, China)
Getropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin)
Glotropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin)
Kefei (191 amino acid, low purity, produced by Shanghai United Kefei Biotechnology Co., Ltd, China)
Kigtropin (relabelled generic of questionable origin, known to cause immune response, different reviews from batch to batch)
Riptropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin, mostly present on the UK black market, different reviews from batch to batch)
Taitropin (relabelled generic of unknown origin, presumably associated with Kigtropin)

 

[01dragonslayer]

Interesting link.....

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/the-new-generic-hgh-assay-page-aaa-testing.134379573/

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Interesting link.....

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/the-new-generic-hgh-assay-page-aaa-testing.134379573/

Thats exactly what I read! Guessing I may just get her on MK at some point as I dont wanna make the years long commitment needed for hgh anyway at this point

 

[ketsugo]

They are all good - know your source . I used to remail for several sources and payment was kits - ive in past 8/9 years tried every brand and color . Funny best hgh I’ve ever used no longer around was these generic pine green tops supposedly made in old fitropin factory. Fat melted off me without diet or cardio / though 5 hours or more day martial art training took much calories . Plus I prefer lean foods . As child even my mom at my request no birthday cake / either bday crown roast or lobster with candles cuz I hate flour products hate drinking alchohol, love dairy though . Just cruise forums read the vets reviews on each hgh type . Me? If I buy I go for cheapest . I’ve done pharmacy grade wasn’t impressed many many times


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[ketsugo]

Interesting info....


HGH caps/tops: Which color is the best?

Answer:

When HGH is referred to by the color of the vial caps it's usually generic growth hormone made by various labs in China. There are not more than a handful certified labs, capable of producing real 191 amino acid sequence somatropin. The necessary lab equipment to produce the HGH is a multi million dollar investment - unreachable for a "bathtub" steroid lab. Furthermore, the required know how includes genetic manipulation of E.Coli bacteria which then secrete the human version of growth hormone. When somatropin is harvested, the bacteria have to be filtered out, which is a very difficult undertaking.

So which color of HGH tops to buy?

Trying to distinguish the generic HGH by the color of the caps is like trying to judge people by the color of their jackets. The color of the caps can freely and easily be switched from batch to batch. This results in endless bodybuilding forum discussions where people report good and bad results from blue tops, green tops, red tops, yellow tops, etc.

If buying generic HGH, the only way to really make sure that what you are about to use will not bring damage to your body is to lab test it beforehand. There are two types of tests you can do. Either a complete lab analysis of the substance (done by a lab capable of performing the test) or using your body as a guinea pig, injecting a full vial and performing a HGH/IGF serum test. See the "Real of fake HGH? How to test it?" page for more info.

Beware of the 192 amino acid sequence GH (Somatrem)

It is less difficult (and cheaper) to produce the 192 amino acid mimic, which is technically not really somatropin. The difference is 1 additional methionyl amino acid attached to the sequence. While generally the effects of using the 192 aa somatrem are similar to somatropin treatment, the different molecule can bring about serious health issues. It is possible that the body's immune system detects the somatrem as foreign and attacks it. Because the foreign 192 and body's own 191 amino acid hormones are very similar, it can lead to the body attacking it's own HGH as well. This autoimmune condition would leave a person without growth hormone - which the body needs for regeneration, metabolism and various important functions.

Beware of the Low purity HGH containing bacterial residue

It is very improbable for a small lab to be capable of extracting the somatropin without bacterial residue in it. Injecting a low purity HGH it often produces painful red welts around injection spot - which is a good indication that the body's immune system has detected the bacterial residue as foreign and is mounting an attack. Potentially this can also lead to the body rejecting it's own naturally produced growth hormone which then leads to serious health issues.

History of colors of the HGH tops

Before the existence of generic HGH labs in China, the yellow tops were used by Jintropin (GeneScience Pharmaceuticals), blue tops were used by Hypertropin (Neogenica Bioscience) and green tops were used for Igtropin (IGF-1 long R3).

In 2007, both Jintropin and Hypertropin switched to using green color caps. Igtropin (IGF-1) was renamed to Revitropin and the color of caps was changed to blue. A few years later Revitropin was renamed to IGF3 and has since been using the red caps.

Brand name embedded in the cap

Some labs have periodically used the name of their brand printed on the vial caps. This has lately been abandoned by most because it can easily be copied and also limits the company's ability to distribute their products under OEM brand names.

Fucking awesome post and I tell you not many impress but this is fascinating thanks for posting . My fellow mods I think this could be posted somewhere as learning tool for all


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[joonp]

Thanx been researching hgh and whether i wanna go that route. This clears up a lot. So the name is how you correlate the product with who the manufacturer is?

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[01dragonslayer]

Fucking awesome post and I tell you not many impress but this is fascinating thanks for posting . My fellow mods I think this could be posted somewhere as learning tool for all


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Sticky?

 

[G160]

Interesting info....


HGH caps/tops: Which color is the best?

Answer:

When HGH is referred to by the color of the vial caps it's usually generic growth hormone made by various labs in China. There are not more than a handful certified labs, capable of producing real 191 amino acid sequence somatropin. The necessary lab equipment to produce the HGH is a multi million dollar investment - unreachable for a "bathtub" steroid lab. Furthermore, the required know how includes genetic manipulation of E.Coli bacteria which then secrete the human version of growth hormone. When somatropin is harvested, the bacteria have to be filtered out, which is a very difficult undertaking.

So which color of HGH tops to buy?

Trying to distinguish the generic HGH by the color of the caps is like trying to judge people by the color of their jackets. The color of the caps can freely and easily be switched from batch to batch. This results in endless bodybuilding forum discussions where people report good and bad results from blue tops, green tops, red tops, yellow tops, etc.

If buying generic HGH, the only way to really make sure that what you are about to use will not bring damage to your body is to lab test it beforehand. There are two types of tests you can do. Either a complete lab analysis of the substance (done by a lab capable of performing the test) or using your body as a guinea pig, injecting a full vial and performing a HGH/IGF serum test. See the "Real of fake HGH? How to test it?" page for more info.

Beware of the 192 amino acid sequence GH (Somatrem)

It is less difficult (and cheaper) to produce the 192 amino acid mimic, which is technically not really somatropin. The difference is 1 additional methionyl amino acid attached to the sequence. While generally the effects of using the 192 aa somatrem are similar to somatropin treatment, the different molecule can bring about serious health issues. It is possible that the body's immune system detects the somatrem as foreign and attacks it. Because the foreign 192 and body's own 191 amino acid hormones are very similar, it can lead to the body attacking it's own HGH as well. This autoimmune condition would leave a person without growth hormone - which the body needs for regeneration, metabolism and various important functions.

Beware of the Low purity HGH containing bacterial residue

It is very improbable for a small lab to be capable of extracting the somatropin without bacterial residue in it. Injecting a low purity HGH it often produces painful red welts around injection spot - which is a good indication that the body's immune system has detected the bacterial residue as foreign and is mounting an attack. Potentially this can also lead to the body rejecting it's own naturally produced growth hormone which then leads to serious health issues.

History of colors of the HGH tops

Before the existence of generic HGH labs in China, the yellow tops were used by Jintropin (GeneScience Pharmaceuticals), blue tops were used by Hypertropin (Neogenica Bioscience) and green tops were used for Igtropin (IGF-1 long R3).

In 2007, both Jintropin and Hypertropin switched to using green color caps. Igtropin (IGF-1) was renamed to Revitropin and the color of caps was changed to blue. A few years later Revitropin was renamed to IGF3 and has since been using the red caps.

Brand name embedded in the cap

Some labs have periodically used the name of their brand printed on the vial caps. This has lately been abandoned by most because it can easily be copied and also limits the company's ability to distribute their products under OEM brand names.

If you do your research try different brands i think many would agree that ansomone is indeed very high purity product.. i could compare ansomones easily to US market serostim..done many gh brands from lilly old kits to Emd and by far Ansomone is the only one comes close or equal..Could see it from my skin fatloss to hair and sides. Also the rumor of the ansomone being 192 was pulled by competition. Check out testing results Jintropin.us has on ansomone purity levels.

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