Generic Black Tops Feedback??

[Nutpuncher]

It makes a big difference if there is a batch number and symbols. These blacks that don’t have those come from a completely different place. The crazy overdosed ones everyone talks about have batch number and symbol. I’ve never had any of these issues with the batch number in it. Never tried the others.

no issues until some wacko decides to counterfeit Meditrope.

 

[NuKKLeHeaD]

Mine don't. Plain black cap white box no labels

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See this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Just somebody that's used plain black tops with good results. I just know they arent "the black tops" that everyone talks about that tested high. Honestly I thought that's what I was buying. I just wanted some reassurance that there are some good ones floating around that look the same as the ones I have.

 

[Nutpuncher]

See this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Just somebody that's used plain black tops with good results. I just know they arent "the black tops" that everyone talks about that tested high. Honestly I thought that's what I was buying. I just wanted some reassurance that there are some good ones floating around that look the same as the ones I have.

But how do you know his black tops are same as yours? I've put out rainbow tops so each color is different to keep folks guessing (just kidding). I saw your reply about you understanding that the color is meaningless but next statement you want to know if anyone has any experience with generic, no label, no batch number, no cursive M on cap...etc, but who knows if the member offering feedback is using the same blacktops produced. Please don't take what I said as being a dickhead. I consciously chose my words so that I would sound like we are "shooting the shit" instead of being a dickhead.

I believe that in order to make a fair comparison, both parties must be talking about same HGH from same source. I apologize if you have confirmed that muscle mechanic's black tops are from same source as yours.

I would be concerned if your getting any proactive sides that would make you question the quality and validity of your HGH. What I mean by proactive sides are sides that is giving you a sign that you may want to investigate your HGH closer to ensure that you're actually getting correct sequence and purity. Yes, most generics still follow same guidelines, but its up to the head cheese to implement or ignore guidelines.

 

[NuKKLeHeaD]

But how do you know his black tops are same as yours? I've put out rainbow tops so each color is different to keep folks guessing (just kidding). I saw your reply about you understanding that the color is meaningless but next statement you want to know if anyone has any experience with generic, no label, no batch number, no cursive M on cap...etc, but who knows if the member offering feedback is using the same blacktops produced. Please don't take what I said as being a dickhead. I consciously chose my words so that I would sound like we are "shooting the shit" instead of being a dickhead.

I believe that in order to make a fair comparison, both parties must be talking about same HGH from same source. I apologize if you have confirmed that muscle mechanic's black tops are from same source as yours.

I would be concerned if your getting any proactive sides that would make you question the quality and validity of your HGH. What I mean by proactive sides are sides that is giving you a sign that you may want to investigate your HGH closer to ensure that you're actually getting correct sequence and purity. Yes, most generics still follow same guidelines, but its up to the head cheese to implement or ignore guidelines.

Im pretty sure they are the same. We can go ahead and put this to bed now.

 

[Nutpuncher]

Im pretty sure they are the same. We can go ahead and put this to bed now.

My friend, that is where your wrong. Look at it like this, lets say I asked if anyone is on TRT and how do they feel on 125mg per week. That is a blanket question because there are so much more behind the scenes that have direct effect in whether or not 125mg is a suitable dose. I bet more folks would say 125mg isn't enough.

I would recommend you not asking about generic black tops, but ask about <insert source name here>'s blacktop. This would narrow your replies exponentially. I love to cap vials lol. I can produce many color tops if I want to. And if I donate some vials away that happen to have a black color top and that person replies to you saying "its the worst HGH that I've ever used. I think HCG is better than the generic black tops". So based on that you can't conclude anything.

I recommend you QUESTION EVERYTHING and think nothing is pretty much the same. besides, I love your avatar I swear I just saw mouth move lol.

 

[NuKKLeHeaD]

My friend, that is where your wrong. Look at it like this, lets say I asked if anyone is on TRT and how do they feel on 125mg per week. That is a blanket question because there are so much more behind the scenes that have direct effect in whether or not 125mg is a suitable dose. I bet more folks would say 125mg isn't enough.

I would recommend you not asking about generic black tops, but ask about <insert source name here>'s blacktop. This would narrow your replies exponentially. I love to cap vials lol. I can produce many color tops if I want to. And if I donate some vials away that happen to have a black color top and that person replies to you saying "its the worst HGH that I've ever used. I think HCG is better than the generic black tops". So based on that you can't conclude anything.

I recommend you QUESTION EVERYTHING and think nothing is pretty much the same. besides, I love your avatar I swear I just saw mouth move lol.

Brother....as I have said 100 times. I trust the source. I'm just gonna leave it at that, and finish the kit. I also talked to Muscle Mechanic and he said he thinks mine are probably the same as his, and I trust his word. I'm just saying we dont have to talk about it anymore.

 

[HoRRoRT]

Brother hes saying you would save a lot of time questioning and asking if any have black tops if you just laid your source down! So people can come in a say yes or give input on what they have read on other forums!!!

 

[HoRRoRT]

Anyway Nuk ill keep you posted brotha!! I'm on my third bottle..

 

[sub-19]

Depends on where they from the color of top means nothing!!!

I am on black tops i started in June by Aug 20th carpal tunnel edema in hands at night and struggling to stay awake.

I had went up to 6 iu.
I had no choice but to keep it at 4iu for now!!!

Nothing else is hurting in joints like I normally am. I better have food after that hour or else!!!

I am not able to run gear the same.
I am growing from less test, primo, and mast p.

But anyway generic color top whatever, the place u get them should give u an honest quality and purity rating.
Take your time it took me almost 7-8 weeks for sides to start I guess.

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Hey bud..I have been reading around, you seem to know the ropes.
I am going to do Mutant's insulin regimen as follows:

- -30 min prior to workout: Take 3 iu HGH subq

- -15 min prior to workout: Take 5 Novalin R, subq

- -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

- -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

- -Go home(I get home 2 hours later)

- -Take 50mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)in a muscle worked out

- -Take down shake #3 immediately

*No Ghrp6 shot in between

- -1 hour later: 300g brown rice/200g chicken breast sauteed


The shakes:

Shake 1: 20g Hydrolysates protein powder+20g EAA , 40-60g HBCD,

Shake 2: 20g Hydrolysates+20g EAA, 40-60g HBCD,

Shake 3: 40g of Whole eggs protein/casein powder+20g EAA, 200g dry oats+ 1 b a n a n a blend as smoothie.

In addition to this, I am going to pin (some low Test)10mg T.Cyp every day, as well I will pin 150 mcg of Ghrp6, 45 min prior to eating 4 times a day; 3 full body workouts a week. T3 is the list too, no idea yet how I would have to run it and what dosing;
Any comment on this would be appreciated.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Hey bud..I have been reading around, you seem to know the ropes.
I am going to do Mutant's insulin regimen as follows:

- -30 min prior to workout: Take 3 iu HGH subq

- -15 min prior to workout: Take 5 Novalin R, subq

- -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

- -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

- -Go home(I get home 2 hours later)

- -Take 50mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)in a muscle worked out

- -Take down shake #3 immediately

*No Ghrp6 shot in between

- -1 hour later: 300g brown rice/200g chicken breast sauteed


The shakes:

Shake 1: 20g Hydrolysates protein powder+20g EAA , 40-60g HBCD,

Shake 2: 20g Hydrolysates+20g EAA, 40-60g HBCD,

Shake 3: 40g of Whole eggs protein/casein powder+20g EAA, 200g dry oats+ 1 b a n a n a blend as smoothie.

In addition to this, I am going to pin (some low Test)10mg T.Cyp every day, as well I will pin 150 mcg of Ghrp6, 45 min prior to eating 4 times a day; 3 full body workouts a week. T3 is the list too, no idea yet how I would have to run it and what dosing;
Any comment on this would be appreciated.

I am not experienced with insulin at all!!

But your t3 or t3/t4 combo is simple
Take 50mcg t3 and if u can t4 50mcg first thing in morning on empty stomach!!!
Don't consume anything except a little water for around 30 minutes.
I do my hgh shot after about 15 minutes.

I wake up and pop it in way to pee!!!

If u using for it metabolism boosting properties making more out of gh release and anabolic steroids along with slin then u want a dose that makes u feel normal.

25mcg is around what body produces.
So 50mcg should be good.
If u can get t4 it's better to use too.
Even 25mcg t3 and 100 t4.

U don't wanna strip your muscle or have any sides at all like a fat loss use.
But fat will melt indeed anyway.

U just wanna fight tiredness and sluggish metabolism from suppression thru what slin, hgh, peptides and igf causes.
And promote favorable metabolism to feed muscle by turning over more food to shuttle faster!!!

Start there. I know lots and lots if guys all at that same dose for same reason but the more peps, gh, slin u add it may require more.
U will notice.

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[sub-19]

...Take 50mcg t3 and if u can t4 50mcg first thing in morning on empty stomach!!!
Don't consume anything except a little water for around 30 minutes.
I do my hgh shot after about 15 minutes.


So 50mcg should be good.
If u can get t4 it's better to use too.
Even 25mcg t3 and 100 t4.

U don't wanna strip your muscle or have any sides at all like a fat loss use.
But fat will melt indeed anyway....


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Could you elaborate on the reasoning behind T3 and T4 together, and not only T3 alone or T4 alone?
Also, you have written that 50 mcg of each would be ideal, then you changed it to 25mcg T3, and 100mcg T4 together.
I am only trying to understand how I could determine the quantity of each if combined.
Thanks

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Could you elaborate on the reasoning behind T3 and T4 together, and not only T3 alone or T4 alone?
Also, you have written that 50 mcg of each would be ideal, then you changed it to 25mcg T3, and 100mcg T4 together.
I am only trying to understand how I could determine the quantity of each if combined.
Thanks

T4 converts to t3

Our body makes t4 natural and converts it as needed

If u take t4 it's Better so said with hgh!!

T3 is much more potent active hormone.

50mcg should do it of t3.
I use the mix of both I adjust separate on own if i get separate.

50mcg-75mcg of t3 is enough!

But better to get mix of both it use both similar to way I said! At work will see if I made sense later lol

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[Muscle mechanic]

Could you elaborate on the reasoning behind T3 and T4 together, and not only T3 alone or T4 alone?
Also, you have written that 50 mcg of each would be ideal, then you changed it to 25mcg T3, and 100mcg T4 together.
I am only trying to understand how I could determine the quantity of each if combined.
Thanks

Another thing to keep in mind is we all convert t4 even self administered at different rates.
So the active t3 form may be easier to figure out but too much u gotta be careful because it will eat muscle.
The right amount perfect for really helping that metabolism give hgh and steroids what it needs to get food ready to be used and absorbed!!! Oh yeah!! Lol!!

Reason behind some t4 involved is to have available if needed.

Hgh suppresses t4 production but coverted hell out of whatever is abaiavailable

So said t4 is less suppressive but hgh is suppressive to it too so....

But it is a total different function or suppression than testicles from gear!!
Thyroid remains working functioning gland!! And isn't damaged according to research and people who used it misdiagnosed for 18 years and what not!!!




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[sub-19]

Another thing to keep in mind is we all convert t4 even self administered at different rates.
So the active t3 form may be easier to figure out but too much u gotta be careful because it will eat muscle.
The right amount perfect for really helping that metabolism give hgh and steroids what it needs to get food ready to be used and absorbed!!! Oh yeah!! Lol!!

Reason behind some t4 involved is to have available if needed.

Hgh suppresses t4 production but coverted hell out of whatever is abaiavailable

So said t4 is less suppressive but hgh is suppressive to it too so....

But it is a total different function or suppression than testicles from gear!!
Thyroid remains working functioning gland!! And isn't damaged according to research and people who used it misdiagnosed for 18 years and what not!!!




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I will then start at 12.5mcg T3 with 25mcg T4, then adjust from there on. As well, I will have to gorge on feeding.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I will then start at 12.5mcg T3 with 25mcg T4, then adjust from there on. As well, I will have to gorge on feeding.

If u use 12.5 t3 use 100mcg t4
Are 25mcg to 100
But 50mcg is fine of t3

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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

If u use 12.5 t3 use 100mcg t4
Are 25mcg to 100
But 50mcg is fine of t3

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Was going to reply "exactly" , just like Cynomel.

I'd use 100mcg, even 200 t-4

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

& gradually ramp up the t-3, and back down exact same in reverse order.....!

 

[Muscle mechanic]

& gradually ramp up the t-3, and back down exact same in reverse order.....!

The more input is better.
I an one person who responds well to 50mcg t3 and 50mcg t4 together
Just as maintance in hgh and gear.

I have t3 and t4 coming separate and will experiment with t4.

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[sub-19]

The more input is better.
I an one person who responds well to 50mcg t3 and 50mcg t4 together
Just as maintance in hgh and gear.

I have t3 and t4 coming separate and will experiment with t4.

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if you are paying cheap and good quality, PM me the source please. Thanks bud.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

if you are paying cheap and good quality, PM me the source please. Thanks bud.

I can't do that but one on here is cheap.
D...

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