First Cycle sus250 and tren

[Argon Coagulator]

I think you should get one more sustanon so you can do one cc e3d for around 600mg/wk for about 12 weeks.

But if I had to use those supplies I'd run

I'd do:
Sust 500mg/wk wk 1-10
Deca 300mg/wk wk 1-10
Tren 50mg eod wk 5-10

 

[shmedgar]

Thanks for the feedback guys. So i was 275 and I dropped 50 lbs and gained plenty of muscle. I agree my diet is bland but I've been doing it for several months and i haven't failed. I could keep working out like I have been for another 6 months but, isn't that what gear is for? I'll get an exact BF% and post it as well as current before and after pics this weekend. I know I've been a piece of shit fat fuck half of my adult life but I used to be 190lbs and used to run half marathons every other week.

I want to get educated but there is a ton of info on gear and I feel that it always comes down to a per person situation.

I'm ordering all my PCT next week and despite getting shit on through this forum I'm learning.

I don't understand why Tren is such a big scary AAS so I gotta read up on that, I also gotta educate myself on Anavar since I don't know much about it, other tbat it's a lot safer and used to gain weight after surgery (quick google search).

I am also on my second week of Clen atm I'm at 100 mg should ramp up to 140 by end of week.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Tren is scary bc it's the only aas that some people freak out on and get side effects that make longer term use intolerable. With that being said I'm about to pin some tren base.

 

[shmedgar]

I see, so how about deca? Would a Deca sus 250 first cycle be more beneficial?
The mentality behind adding more even of its the first cycle is that if I'm gonna be using steroids I might as well have enough to make a difference and not waste perfectly good sus250 right?

 

[Dt450]

Tren is scary bc it's the only aas that some people freak out on and get side effects that make longer term use intolerable. With that being said I'm about to pin some tren base.

Lmfaoo that shits funny. More of a do as I say not as I do approach. Tren base is fun.

 

[Dt450]

I see, so how about deca? Would a Deca sus 250 first cycle be more beneficial?
The mentality behind adding more even of its the first cycle is that if I'm gonna be using steroids I might as well have enough to make a difference and not waste perfectly good sus250 right?

I think most people’s reasoning behind the whole “first cycle should be test only” is because you’ll be able to see how you react to test. And how you need to dose AI and whatnot. What amount of test is too high. Then adding compounds in future cycles to be able to determine the synergy between compounds and how side effects vary from so and so when you add x amount of whatever. Ideal ratios for YOU and YOUR body because it will be different than the next guy.
You are talking about deca and tren. These compounds can absolutely destroy your ability to get erections. Lots of dudes have complained about their dick not working for even months and months after the cycle. And I can bet you 8/10 of those guys just blindly jumped into it and fucked their bodies up.

It goes without saying it’s up to you on how you want to do it. I do understand your thought process on gear is effective for gaining muscle and losing fat so why not just take so and so if it works. But you need to understand that it’s probably best for longevity and just your basic understanding of compounds from your personal experience if you started with something more basic like your Sus 250. Then add different things as you go.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Lmfaoo that shits funny. More of a do as I say not as I do approach. Tren base is fun.

It was actually my first time ever using tren, other than methyl tren. I did 25mg of pvt label's base (I got free) in a slin pin. It did give a nice PIP similar to methyl tren and I feel friggen nice, mellow as hell PWO. M-tren never got me feeling crazy either.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

I see, so how about deca? Would a Deca sus 250 first cycle be more beneficial?
The mentality behind adding more even of its the first cycle is that if I'm gonna be using steroids I might as well have enough to make a difference and not waste perfectly good sus250 right?

If this is your absolute first cycle, then I'd say save the deca for your second or third cycle and have enough to run atleast 400mg for 12-15 weeks. Your test can remain at 500-600mg for that cycle.

I personally like doing 1ml of test every 3 days which totals 583mg/wk. Doctor Rand says you can safely run up to 600mg of test for 20 weeks with minimal impact on your health. I'd say if test is all your running use atleast 500mg, any less won't do alot unless you're a hyper responder which is rare and for many 500mg isn't too great either.

 

[El Hereje]

Dont
Do
Tren
Given your stated goals, you need to drop allot more body-fat before doing drugs. If you absolutely have to do drugs then do a TRT dose of any test and keep up the fight. If you’ve lost 50 lbs of fat already then you know what I’m talking about. There’s no sense in fucking with your lipids and estrogen and spending $$ on shit if you can’t be ripped up by the time the cycle ends. I think anyway.

 

[shmedgar]

So 1cc Wednesday and Sunday for 10 weeks, thats my 2 vials. Half a tab of aromasin EOD. Then nolvadex for pct 2 to 3 weeks after last pin ED for 4 weeks tapered.

Simple first cycle, I'll post progress!

Ps. Can we discuss how to more easily buy this shit? Had to open up a another bank account just for these purchases. Anyone know a good place to shop with a credit card???

 

[Dt450]

So 1cc Wednesday and Sunday for 10 weeks, thats my 2 vials. Half a tab of aromasin EOD. Then nolvadex for pct 2 to 3 weeks after last pin ED for 4 weeks tapered.

Simple first cycle, I'll post progress!

Ps. Can we discuss how to more easily buy this shit? Had to open up a another bank account just for these purchases. Anyone know a good place to shop with a credit card???

Not a good idea to put that onto an open forum.
But I can tell you, you don’t need to open another bank account to get anything

 

[shmedgar]

Pms are welcomed

 

[shmedgar]

Progress is going amazing! As I suspected I still have plenty of fat on the under side of my tits. I've been pinning 1ml twice a week and about 1.25ml of aromasin daily for three weeks. I'm wondering if adding any pct by week 5 would be ideal. Any suggestions? Or should I still with my low calorie diet and wait for the fat to burn off naturally?