felt I was dying

I'm just glad I knew what it was because of everything I had researched. It happened on 100mgs so I could only imagine how bad it would be on say 150 or 200mgs. Tren is a bad ass compound but I'm not sure if I can pin it again knowing I could go through that lol


LMAO!!!
Just try to take only really shallow breaths until it passes and don't worry it won't happen every time.
 
LMAO!!!
Just try to take only really shallow breaths until it passes and don't worry it won't happen every time.

True, very true "not" always , I wonder if a smaller pin would /could help substantially, less chance (I suppose )
Of knicking a vein..?

I'm gonna throw low dose Tren in soon myself , like maybe just 50 EOD Ace /mast /prop , been awhile, or just 200 Enanth a week...? In two pins
 
I laughed and said it was a hoax and placebo thing...
Well I started getting it here and there but may be 2x per run only.

Got it last week a couple times and today bad. I am used to it and know it's just an irritant and burn that causes a cough for a few minutes. I am very sterile so I walk away from my gear on counter while I cough... don't want germs on my stuff. For real though!!!

Tren is selective in tissue and is prostaglandin in some. The cough is from artery or vessel which ever that flows to lungs. They are on surface that flow that way. An experiment would be to put a little on a fresh cut or spot bleeding if bleeding where pin comes out!!! I am not trying it!!!

So tren acts as irritant in these tissues when it gets there by route described. It's said to be more common in ace or base version but dunno!!! Everytime it happens I get a blood drop from pin hole.

I will go back to old practice and load test in pin first so less tren comes out last and gets to that outer area on way out!!! Also when I heat all up in pin it mixes so.... it's warming up in my area gear flows good so will stop heating under hot water so it don't all mix together. I will see if it's better or worse.

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True, very true "not" always , I wonder if a smaller pin would /could help substantially, less chance (I suppose )
Of knicking a vein..?

I'm gonna throw low dose Tren in soon myself , like maybe just 50 EOD Ace /mast /prop , been awhile, or just 200 Enanth a week...? In two pins
I have worse luck with smaller pin because it bends and harder to push and can cause outer surface to bleed more!!! I mean in glutes hard to reach...

Pharma syringe BD I get local are worse because they so long to reach from rear and push plunger!!! I like the vet grade fat syringes for this reason in glutes especially.

And always have better luck with 1" opposesed to 5/8" with cough!!

1" 25ga I will order with air tight brand and termo drawing and or pinning tips.....

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I have worse luck with smaller pin because it bends and harder to push and can cause outer surface to bleed more!!! I mean in glutes hard to reach...

Pharma syringe BD I get local are worse because they so long to reach from rear and push plunger!!! I like the vet grade fat syringes for this reason in glutes especially.

And always have better luck with 1" opposesed to 5/8" with cough!!

1" 25ga I will order with air tight brand and termo drawing and or pinning tips.....

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Yeah, I've "fishhooked" smaller guage ones myself a few times, 25 1", or 1 1/2 " bent right over while still inserted.
 
Here's one illustration, I was looking for a You-Tube, ,a bodybuilder had put it up, had his wife film when he demonstrates.

But yeah, I think you'll get it, and it is a pleasure to do comparitively to some other groups of muscle.

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Thanks for this! That’s where I was thinking but it just seems like if you pin wrong you won’t be walking is the only reason I haven’t tried it lol


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Never had anything like that happen. I've read that "Tren cough" isn't really specific to tren, it's just because you hit a vein. A guy on here said that, he's a VET and very smart in my opinion.
If i hit a vein i get it with all 19 nor and even test. I think tren just the most potent.
 
I never believed it till it happened to me!!
I pin gear everyday most of time. I only have this specific cough with tren. Tren is a real prostaglandin in certain tissues and Lowers cortisol and stimulates adrenaline. It's also will stop normal response to stress and add more stress in situations.

Prostaglandins are inflammation and with tren it's reason for burning cough and bronchial asthma type constriction and decreased cardio capacity. It affects some more than others and not common in Enathate or hex ester with cough.

I have had an adrenaline type surge from test or any gear time to time but never this horrific burning thru lungs chest and pick in throat with cough.. I got it today. When it happens I feel burn moving from site and then it hits lungs and chest. Feels like I would have drank jet fuel and it went down wrong pipe. I laughed at everyone said it was hoax for years.... it doesnt happen often but when it does it's only been with tren ace....





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IM SORRY but you didnt his a VEIN!!! I aspirate despite many saying "waste of time" and posibly have pssed through but 1-1.5 " glutes delts quads good luck directly getting into a vein...NOW I have had this happen MANY times about 6 to 8 ALL on tren ace or hex never on tren E or ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE...It's the tren..Imo that is tren cough to me..You feel burning INSIDE your lungs , fear of death not because of anxiety but because your fuking lungs arent supp to be burning!!!LOL...I learned injecting super slow helps a TON...Dont just rush it saying this one tomes fine cuz thats when itll hit you ...inject very very slow!!!!!!!! Regardless of brpo science and opinions it is NOT a vein ...it wouldnt be 3-6 minute of pain and gone if it was...youd feel sick for hours....
 
Good point DK,

IM SORRY but you didnt his a VEIN!!! I aspirate despite many saying "waste of time" and posibly have pssed through but 1-1.5 " glutes delts quads good luck directly getting into a vein...NOW I have had this happen MANY times about 6 to 8 ALL on tren ace or hex never on tren E or ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE...It's the tren..Imo that is tren cough to me..You feel burning INSIDE your lungs , fear of death not because of anxiety but because your fuking lungs arent supp to be burning!!!LOL...I learned injecting super slow helps a TON...Dont just rush it saying this one tomes fine cuz thats when itll hit you ...inject very very slow!!!!!!!! Regardless of brpo science and opinions it is NOT a vein ...it wouldnt be 3-6 minute of pain and gone if it was...youd feel sick for hours....
 
Well, all that is what I meant tho, got relief from.thr soothing hot coffee , but I know what your saying it's almost like an automatic reaction for some to cough, or try "holding" from coughing...! Yes, it can make it worse.

Especially if ya can't get it quelled, I guess that's all I was getting at however, is that I found it (coffee ) to sooth it sort of odd, but relief.

The whole burning n everything.

Didn't make it just dissipate, but certainly helped considerably.
I've never had " tren" cough.... so far! I'm going with the having coffe handy, thanks for the tip.
 
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