DHB Dosage and Brewing questions!

[Seth(The Spartan)]

Hey everyone, hoping to get a small amount of help.

Been looking, but seems I can't secure a reliable source of DHB (Dihydroboldanone)! Going to give it a good at brewing a small batch for myself. Asked around the forum already, and apparently Poohbear and Gold quality raws are the sh*t!

So my question then is"what should I dose it at?" as I've heard 200mg is apparently ridiculously brutal in the PIP department (what if I mixed finished product with test or deca or does it not matter?). Secondly, what percentage benzyl benzoate should I use, do I even have to use it with DHB?

Lastly, best carrier oil to use? Apparently there is a lot of debate of this subject.

Thanks in advance to the more experienced guys!

 

[Poohbear]

I'd do 100mg and yes bb 23% . Id use EO and gcol also with mtc oil . Just in my opinion of course

 

[Seth(The Spartan)]

I'd do 100mg and yes bb 23% . Id use EO and gcol also with mtc oil . Just in my opinion of course

Thanks for the recommendation pooh bear! I'll have to tweak it slightly though haha. I'm super allergic to EO oil. Couldn't even walk for a whole week after I pinned a ml of test with eo oil. 10/10 pain

 

[Poohbear]

Will have to use more gcol then

 

[Thaistick]

There's good sources putting it out at 100mg/ml painless without EO or gcol.

 

[Poohbear]

There's good sources putting it out at 100mg/ml painless without EO or gcol.

Not offend anybody but bullshit

 

[Seth(The Spartan)]

I'm going to try first just a mini Brew in a vial. I'll brew at 100 mg per ml, 2%BA 25%BB. It says this compound crashes is really easily? If so shouldn't 25% BB be more than enough to hold it at 100 mg per ml? That's a pretty low dose

 

[Poohbear]

No it will not hold compound weight is to high!! If by some chance it does when it hits the muscle get ready for the ride lol .

 

[01dragonslayer]

Not sure if I can answer all your questions but I am currently running DHB at 200mg/ml with only some slight discomfort. Although I am cutting it with some prop and NPP which may help with some of pain. I also just try and massage the site post injection as well.

Am am not sure but when brewing it at such a high dose I believe guaiacol needs to be your carrier.

Hope this helps a little.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

I'm going to try first just a mini Brew in a vial. I'll brew at 100 mg per ml, 2%BA 25%BB. It says this compound crashes is really easily? If so shouldn't 25% BB be more than enough to hold it at 100 mg per ml? That's a pretty low dose

Crashes real easy, is an understatement, this compound is tricky, here's"crashed" 200mg/ml T1-Cyp, and I've tweked it, to be 125mg/ml, holds "just-fine" , but as I've said Either earlier in this thread, it the previous one we've been kicking round, {and it still Kills in pip } in talking fever for two days, pip 4+ n my left delt looked as if I I put.an inch & a half on within hours I mean it looked Kool, but felt awful...! I will persevere tho, anxious to give this shit s decent run, but if all else fails, I'll I ject it in the Lab Rats instead, Lol.....! Pics Below





MotorCity

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Kinda hard to tell there, but it looks like a partially melted slushy, hormone stalagmites....!

 

[TheWizard]

i'm still fairly new to home brew... can someone explain what Gcol, i assume (propylene goycol) is used for and in what applications it should be used, so far ive only been making test with BA BB and GSO. some solutions still seem thicker than id like them to be. should they be thinned with a higher % of BB? or is that something Gcol is for?

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

i'm still fairly new to home brew... can someone explain what Gcol, i assume (propylene goycol) is used for and in what applications it should be used, so far ive only been making test with BA BB and GSO. some solutions still seem thicker than id like them to be. should they be thinned with a higher % of BB? or is that something Gcol is for?

Two completely diff things Guaicol, and the latter is Propylene "Glycol" which is actually merely "Antifreeze" if you will.

However it is a food grade contsituant, for our purposes I believe it is use exclusively for Oral preparations, like Liq Letro, Asin, or Adex perhaps liquid Drol, Bol, t-3 etc.

PEG = " Polyethylene " Glycol comes in diff weight, like 400, 600, not sure all the varients.

But your initial question Guaicol is used to get Hormones in a "much" higher dosed concentration. ( And "maybe" to help with PIP..? Not 100% positive on that, but that is what EO does , Ethyl Oleate. So.e if these compounds will eat away at the Septum's on your vials if in contact with the septum's.

I'm sure someone​ with.correct me where I am wrong, if in fact I did mis-lead, or get something skewed .

Here, rather than doing alot of typing.
On the Antifreeze compound. PG

https://draxe.com/propylene-glycol/

The other items, you could just do a Google search.

Also, I may add, I always like to refer fella's to Basskillers site, I believe it's in the Forum tab, a ways down.

MotorCity

 

[01dragonslayer]

i'm still fairly new to home brew... can someone explain what Gcol, i assume (propylene goycol) is used for and in what applications it should be used, so far ive only been making test with BA BB and GSO. some solutions still seem thicker than id like them to be. should they be thinned with a higher % of BB? or is that something Gcol is for?

Guaiacol is called super solvent,as with most high mg gear it contained guaiacol as a solvent used to create high level of concentrate.

Product Name:Guaiacol
CAS NO.:90-05-1
EINECS:201-964-7
Molecular Formular:C7H8O2
Molecular Weight:124.14
Appearance:Yellow liquid
Gradeharmaceutical Grade

Super Solvent

Guaiacol is the methyl ether of pyrocatechin, and is obtained by distilling guaiacum from wood-tar creosote. A strong solvent pure and simple it has some water miscibility to it and high degree of oil solubility as well.Guaiacol is called super solvent,as with most high mg gear it contained guaiacol as a solvent used to create that level of concentrate.It can dissolve powder more easily,and mainly used for oral steroids such as Oxandrolone,Dianabol,Winstrol,anadrol,etc.

Guaiacol is a combustable compound, so be very careful when brewing this if you use an open flame as your heat source. i would suggest everyone have a good hotplate with automatic, magnetic stirring if you regularly homebrew though.

Reduce Pain

Guaiacol has been shown to have anesthesic properties, though to what extent I can’t comment personally on. This fact is probably why solutions in high concentrations using the super solvent are reported to be painless or nearly painless by users.

But to give you an idea of the power of the guaiacol 300mg/ml testosterone propante can be made using .5g guaiacol to 1gram of testosterone propante. While this inject is tolerable it is not pleasant and I would not care to do this every day. Note the pain is independent of the hormone used, 100 mg/ml is the same as 300mg/ml. The only solution that I have gotten that is somewhat comfortable is a water reducible I made with it. See below:
1. 1gram of guaiacol
2. 2grams of D-bol
3. 1.2ml PG
4. 0.5ml BA

Side Effect

Though Guaiacol is a super solvent we seldom use it because it causes side effects which many people don’t like,such as:Allergies,Irritability,Fever,Cough,Disgusting vomits……

It has been shown to have irritating properties on inhalation, injestion, or skin contact in high quantities. It permeates the skin barrier very readily and will be distributed systemically as well.