Always sick on Tren

[Nogichute]

It seems I conveniently some how always forget that every time I run Tren I get sick. Either viral or respiratory infection. No matter what brand of ester. Hits me constantly throughout the blast without fail. I ride it out like an idiot because the results are always amazing.
Any way, was wondering if any of the other brothers on the board experience this with tren or other specific compound.
Doesn't happen with anything else.
What do you guys think, is this just a side effect this hormone has on my immune system? Or is it something else that I am not aware Of?
Appreciate you guys taking the time to respond in advance.

 

[jrsgym]

What's your pinning protocol and dosages?

 

[Nogichute]

Right now I'm on Tren e 600mg , test e 250mg a week. Pin half on Tuesday, half on Friday. Going for a 10 week blast. I blast and cruise because I am currently on trt. 200 mg test every 10 days.
I dropped the cyp for the 250 test e during the blast.

Even when I have done less in the past e or a still the same thing happens. I've tried ed and eod. Even with e. Also trying once a week with e before.

 

[jrsgym]

That's a nice dose. I'd only use ace if that was the case at a lower dose. Start low and adjust accordingly. And if it gets too much at some point, you can stop and it'll be out of your system in a few days. The E is going to stick around.
Try lowering that dose and increasing the test. And consider running it longer than 10 weeks. 8-10 weeks is better suited for a short ester, not the longer ones.
Why did you drop the cyp and only pinning once every 10 days?
Personally, I wouldn't run anything that made me sick like that. Too many other choices out there to use. Maybe not as strong as tren but won't make you sick.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Never heard of this. Like a cold or something? Prostaglandins in tren cause bronchial constriction so maybe that is what u are feeling? I use albuterol and GW while on Tren an run the exact dosing you are and my sides are nearly nothing. If I do start to feel some congestion I immediately hit that mucus crap. On or not. Colds dont seem to last if I get rolling on whatever that stuff is the first sign I feel anything.

 

[Nogichute]

I dropped the cyp simply to change esters. I save my trt stuff for the cruises and switch back to every 10 days. You're right brother about too many other options. I think I'll try lowering it to 400 and running it longer seeing how that feels. I think what keeps me coming back is that if I tough it out every time I run it I get drastic changes and permanent changes to my build.
[MENTION=1595]OHBRUTUSIO[/MENTION] yeah man, I either get a terrible cold, flu, viral, or respiratory infection. Don't know why, but it's only with Tren and every time I run it on and off throughout the cycle or blast.

Albuterol and GW definitely sound like a really good idea. Haven't thought of that before.

 

[jrsgym]

I dropped the cyp simply to change esters. I save my trt stuff for the cruises and switch back to every 10 days. You're right brother about too many other options. I think I'll try lowering it to 400 and running it longer seeing how that feels. I think what keeps me coming back is that if I tough it out every time I run it I get drastic changes and permanent changes to my build.

[MENTION=1595]OHBRUTUSIO[/MENTION] yeah man, I either get a terrible cold, flu, viral, or respiratory infection. Don't know why, but it's only with Tren and every time I run it on and off throughout the cycle or blast.

Albuterol and GW definitely sound like a really good idea. Haven't thought of that before.

Ohh ok, I see. Yeab, see how that does. 400mgs is still a nice dose.

 

[C587]

Could it negatively be affecting your immune system?

 

[Kins]

Could it negatively be affecting your immune system?

Doesn't TREN raise cortisol?. That could be it.

 

[Nogichute]

Doesn't TREN raise cortisol?. That could be it.

Hmm.... that's a very interesting thought. I hadn't even considered that.

 

[Nogichute]

Could it negatively be affecting your immune system?

I think this particular hormone does, in the way my body responds to it.

It's not so bad that it kills gains or anything. Not something that keeps me out of work. It is something I was really curious if it had this particular effect on any others though.


I appreciate the input again brothers.
This really is the best board out there with the greatest and most helpful, mature members.

I don't believe I have ever gathered so much useful knowledge from any other boards except maybe 1.

 

[C587]

Not sure [MENTION=936]Kins[/MENTION] while I respect science I'm more of a real world results guy...

All I can comment on tren health wise is that it made my stomach (kidneys I think) hurt and made my piss very dark. Gains wise it was badass. The risk isn't worth the reward for me these days.

 

[Kins]

Not sure [MENTION=936]Kins[/MENTION] while I respect science I'm more of a real world results guy...

All I can comment on tren health wise is that it made my stomach (kidneys I think) hurt and made my piss very dark. Gains wise it was badass. The risk isn't worth the reward for me these days.

Yeah I had a terrible experience with trying it for the first time. Didn't get past the first pin. Will try again sometime though, just so I know what it's like or see if maybe I can fix whatever made me freak out.

 

[Nogichute]

[MENTION=3002]C587[/MENTION] I wholly agree. I'm a science guy as well. Unfortunately science doesn't and probably will never have enough or any decent studies regarding ped's, supplements, diets or even workouts that pertain to strength sports and bodybuilding.
These boards and those actually in the community, along with ourselves seeing what works for us as individuals is the only reliable studies and evidence we have.
Contrary to what certain studies show I know when I went up to 2-2.5 grams of protein per lb was when I grew exponentially.
I've seen studies that show that guys on synthetic testosterone who don't workout grow more than guys who use nothing and go to the gym. In real life I've known guys to blast 900mg of test a week and barely hit the gym who look like skinny weaklings.
That's the problem with science when it comes to this in general. Real world experience is the only studies we have to rely on.
Science and even the medical community is still in the dark ages with flawed studies. I had to explain to my own trt doc basically how synthetic test works. She wanted to put me 600 mg a month with me doing all 600mg at the beginning of every month. Luckily she listened to me. This would have been useless at best and at worse a hormone roller coaster nightmare.

 

[Nogichute]

[MENTION=936]Kins[/MENTION] what was it that scared you away after the first pin?
Tren is a different beast when it comes to hormones. Everyone has a unique experience with Tren more so than any other steroid. Sides and effects range all over the map.
It gives me terrible night sweats, literally waking up with the bed soaked and it's freezing in my house. It also has this weird effect where Im guessing it tanks my immune system around weeks 3-4 for a couple weeks.This always leads to either a respiratory infection, or the flu. I do get a little moodiness, but nothing too bad.
I notice with me as well as long as the test is 300 or lower, no matter what dose of tren the sides don't get any worse. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
It also makes my sex drive some how get higher. A little scary because I'm already hyper sexual. And makes my sexual desires a little darker.
Freaks the wife out a little bit, because she is already convinced Im a sex addict.

 

[Kins]

[MENTION=936]Kins[/MENTION] what was it that scared you away after the first pin?
Tren is a different beast when it comes to hormones. Everyone has a unique experience with Tren more so than any other steroid. Sides and effects range all over the map.
It gives me terrible night sweats, literally waking up with the bed soaked and it's freezing in my house. It also has this weird effect where Im guessing it tanks my immune system around weeks 3-4 for a couple weeks.This always leads to either a respiratory infection, or the flu. I do get a little moodiness, but nothing too bad.
I notice with me as well as long as the test is 300 or lower, no matter what dose of tren the sides don't get any worse. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
It also makes my sex drive some how get higher. A little scary because I'm already hyper sexual. And makes my sexual desires a little darker.
Freaks the wife out a little bit, because she is already convinced Im a sex addict.

Are all the sides really worth it?. After my first pin I had a massive panic attack lasting 2 days long. I describe it "The Laws of Trenbolone" thread.

https://hardcore-underground.com/sh...ws-of-Trenbolone?p=74963&viewfull=1#post74963

 

[Nogichute]

[MENTION=936]Kins[/MENTION] For me I think they are. Also I notice every time I run it the sides are easier to deal with. May also just be getting older and more mature.

I completely agree with that question being the most important question for any ped or supplement though.

I'm stubborn so when I ran it with higher test on the first run. I had all the terrible mental and emotional sides. Some I didn't even realize until the cycle was over. I let it ruin a relationship and almost my life. I was 28 but still too immature for it.
After research I found low test removed all the mental and emotional sides for me.
I don't recommend trying that to any one else.
I don't like seeing anyone deal with that especially anxiety, so for you brother I wish you the best but hope you try other things before experimenting with Tren again.
If you do and the anxiety is too much I'll be here to talk to if you need it.

 

[Kins]

[MENTION=936]Kins[/MENTION] For me I think they are. Also I notice every time I run it the sides are easier to deal with. May also just be getting older and more mature.

I completely agree with that question being the most important question for any ped or supplement though.

I'm stubborn so when I ran it with higher test on the first run. I had all the terrible mental and emotional sides. Some I didn't even realize until the cycle was over. I let it ruin a relationship and almost my life. I was 28 but still too immature for it.
After research I found low test removed all the mental and emotional sides for me.
I don't recommend trying that to any one else.
I don't like seeing anyone deal with that especially anxiety, so for you brother I wish you the best but hope you try other things before experimenting with Tren again.
If you do and the anxiety is too much I'll be here to talk to if you need it.

Thanks bro!. Yeah I still plan on trying it again later on down the road. Not for a while though.

 

[Kins]

Any DHT related drug that I've tried makes me feel amazing.

 

[Kins]

Add mast and/or proviron. See if that helps. If it doesn't, then it's not worth using tren.... Period. Look good, but feel like shit and be miserable towards yourself and the rest of the world?! Doesn't make shit sense to me.

I will try Tren again in the future but this thread is about a different guy that's always sick on Tren. Believe I put my link to my experience somewhere around in this thread also though.