500mg test per week + 50mg dbol per day and sore nips

[Hardman]

Hey guys, my buddy has mentioned he's almost completed 6 weeks of 500mg test per week + 50mg dbol every day and he has started experiencing sore nips but here is the kicker he has had gyno surgery about two years ago and from what he has told me in the past they removed most of the glands.
I'm not sure what to think of this but the guy is honest and not a typical shitter, known him a long time and work out with him.
Is this even possible?
I thought once you had gyno surgery you could not get any type of gyno problems.
Thanks guys any info would be awesome so i can sound educated when the conversation comes up again.

 

[C587]

Depends if they removed the whole gland. I know my surgeon wouldn't BC he said it could potentially leave his chest looking concave.

 

[xxplosive]

Why the fuck would you risk running high amounts of 2 aromatizable compounds with no AI if you have even sniffed gyno before?

 

[Hardman]

Why the fuck would you risk running high amounts of 2 aromatizable compounds with no AI if you have even sniffed gyno before?

Great question and one which i asked also.
he said the AI made him feel horrible.
i told him he should of lowered the dose to see if it made him feel better.

 

[Hardman]

I'll ask about this.
not sure how much they did remove.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

I'd have him aquire some Letro asap , 2.5mg every 3rd day & at least 20 mg Nolva daily .., stop the Dbol entirely & maybe even half the test , or drop to 300.. if serious enough, he may even want to consider ending cycle & doing a post recovery protocol, then consider other options I he intends to keep using gear, like Mast Prop, (or all short esters entirely ) but def Mast, even Enanth ..
Primo, low test 200-250 /week tops 25 mg Asin e3rd day if he goes with this , EQ is another option , but Nolva at hand for sure "always" & may want to leave Dbol alone & opt for VAR, Tbol etc.

 

[Hardman]

I'd have him aquire some Letro asap , 2.5mg every 3rd day & at least 20 mg Nolva daily .., stop the Dbol entirely & maybe even half the test , or drop to 300.. if serious enough, he may even want to consider ending cycle & doing a post recovery protocol, then consider other options I he intends to keep using gear, like Mast Prop, (or all short esters entirely ) but def Mast, even Enanth ..
Primo, low test 200-250 /week tops 25 mg Asin e3rd day if he goes with this , EQ is another option , but Nolva at hand for sure "always" & may want to leave Dbol alone & opt for VAR, Tbol etc.

Thanks MotorCity I really appreciate your help and I'll pass this along.
I'm pretty sure he will want to continue in the future because we both have become gym junkies in the past year and are kinda competing against each other but it may be best for him to drop his current cycle as you stated above for now and regroup.
I spoke to him a few hours ago and asked him in detail about his symptoms and apparently there are no knots or lumps, no redness, no itching or burning only a little sore so I personally don't think it seems to severe yet from the little research i have done last night.
Just so i understand you correctly you recommend him doing no more than 200mg to 250mg Test in the future to be on the safe side?
I have gave him Aromisan recently, will that be sufficient with each cycle in the future since he is prone to gyno? and if so what dose do you recommend?
Can he run Nova with Aromisan with each cycle and if so at what doses for each.
If it progresses and he thinks he needs Letro where is the best Domestic place to acquire in your opinion?

 

[Yates84]

10mg nolva eod will fix his problems right up. That methyl estrogen from the dbol can be tough for some people and nolva will keep estrogen from attaching to receptors in breast tissue. Still need an AI to address circulating estrogen but nolva will definitely give his nipples some relief. The D line nolva does the trick for me almost over night with one dose! I always keep nolva on hand.

 

[HoRRoRT]

Why don't you tell your buddy to join us on HCU and make his own profile ?

 

[xxplosive]

Great question and one which i asked also.
he said the AI made him feel horrible.
i told him he should of lowered the dose to see if it made him feel better.

I have NEVER heard of an AI making a guy feel horrible.

I have heard of female breast tissue on a grown man making men feel horrible.

 

[Hevi-head]

I have NEVER heard of an AI making a guy feel horrible.

I have heard of female breast tissue on a grown man making men feel horrible.

I dunno bro, you totally crash your estro you’ll have zero sex drive. That’s pretty horrible

 

[Hardman]

Why don't you tell your buddy to join us on HCU and make his own profile ?

I'm working on that but he is having a hard time with the idea of posting anything about his "top secret" extra curricular activities LOL.
No seriously I'm trying and have even went as far as log in while he was at my house to show him the ropes.
I think i can get him warmed up to it eventually.

 

[b090]

10mg nolva eod will fix his problems right up. That methyl estrogen from the dbol can be tough for some people and nolva will keep estrogen from attaching to receptors in breast tissue. Still need an AI to address circulating estrogen but nolva will definitely give his nipples some relief. The D line nolva does the trick for me almost over night with one dose! I always keep nolva on hand.

What do you think about aromasin 12.5 mg daily till symptoms disappear and then move to eod?

 

[xxplosive]

I'm working on that but he is having a hard time with the idea of posting anything about his "top secret" extra curricular activities LOL.
No seriously I'm trying and have even went as far as log in while he was at my house to show him the ropes.
I think i can get him warmed up to it eventually.

If he doesn't want his cover blown, the gyno would be a dead giveaway of his "extra curricular activities" more so than an anonymous user handle on a message board...

 

[xxplosive]

I dunno bro, you totally crash your estro you’ll have zero sex drive. That’s pretty horrible

I took "horrible" as in physically feeling like shit, like the way you might on the latter end of a tren run or superdrol or something real toxic.

 

[Yates84]

What do you think about aromasin 12.5 mg daily till symptoms disappear and then move to eod?

Go for it, might work. Would be better than nolva honestly but nolva always works for me when adex or exemestane don't. It's the fail safe option, nolva is.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Nolva 10mg a day. I use it religiously, it always works for me. Blocking is only needed at breast.
I use less AI and 10mg Nolva. Max AI is aromasin 25mg eod with nolva 10mg on heavy aromatase but I never get nip issues just gain fat in lower chest when I gain fat... adex 0.5mg 3x wk or eod most plus I add letro 1.25mg like I did last night if puffiness starts and jumping on or off...

Alot of blast I only use 10mg Nolva and proviron with adex at 0.5mg 2x wk...
Or aromasin 12.5mg eod

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