10ius GH PWO 3x/week

[Ironman404]

Old theory was to wait 15-20mins, I personally don't worry about it much.

I nended your expertise Rambo! Lol

 

[RamboStallone]

So, trying to be somewhat financially responsible with how much I spend on gear lol...would it be of much benefit to only run ipam or only CJC with GH as opposed to both?

Cjc (mod) is not that effective on its own. It's an add-on to the ghrp (ipam in this case). Ipam alone will work but it's a weaker ghrp then say hex or ghrp2 which are pretty effective on their own. Since this is the case, in my opinion, run the ipam and cjc together. Just wait till your GH is up and use that. Many alternate between GH and peps.

 

[Ironman404]

Cjc (mod) is not that effective on its own. It's an add-on to the ghrp (ipam in this case). Ipam alone will work but it's a weaker ghrp then say hex or ghrp2 which are pretty effective on their own. Since this is the case, in my opinion, run the ipam and cjc together. Just wait till your GH is up and use that. Many alternate between GH and peps.

Sounds like a plan...less hasle anyway lol.

Yea I prefer the ipam because it doesn't cause any water retention and makes me crazy vascular.

 

[IronHorse]

I like to use 100mcg T4 and 20mcg of T3 but that's what works for me. I also use fast acting slin while on growth.

 

[RamboStallone]

Sounds like a plan...less hasle anyway lol.

Yea I prefer the ipam because it doesn't cause any water retention and makes me crazy vascular.

I like ipam for the same reasons even though it is weaker, there's is really no negative sides. I always suggest ipam for the antiaging crowd. It's perfect for that in my opinion.

 

[Ironman404]

I like ipam for the same reasons even though it is weaker, there's is really no negative sides. I always suggest ipam for the antiaging crowd. It's perfect for that in my opinion.

You think GHRP 2 or 6 are better for bodybuilding purposes though? They are certainly a shit ton cheaper lol.

 

[Ironman404]

I like ipam for the same reasons even though it is weaker, there's is really no negative sides. I always suggest ipam for the antiaging crowd. It's perfect for that in my opinion.

You think GHRP 2 or 6 are better for bodybuilding purposes though? They are certainly a shit ton cheaper lol.

 

[RamboStallone]

I don't think ghrp6 is that much stronger then ipam honestly. Ghrp6 is mainly used for the appetite increase, the GH release is just a bonus. If you're after the most GH,, hex, ghrp2, and MK677 are much stronger. I'm not saying the others don't work, I'm just saying these 3 are better for bodybuilding purposes. You have to weigh the options versus the goals. Each peptide is unique and great for a certain situation. My perfect recomp stack for instance is, Hexarelin and modgrf in the AM and preworkout, then ipam and modgrf prebed. It's not a one way street or some one fits all answer.

I've also done hex and ghrp6 together so I can maximize the GH peaks with hex and get the hunger increase of ghrp6 since hex doesn't effect hunger. Also, you have to keep in mind with something like hex desensitization occurs with prolonged and frequent dosing so some alternate hex and ghrp2.

 

[Gman13]

You can shoot the ipam and cjc before your GH doses for the best of both worlds. The theory is the exogenous GH would then ride the pulse of endogenous GH. Very synergistic.

Would u do same thing with mk677 dosing

 

[RamboStallone]

Would u do same thing with mk677 dosing

MK677 and HGH are very synergistic. Yes I'd do the same. What's nice about MK677 is its one oral dose daily, that's what I switch to when I get sick of pinning.

 

[Gman13]

MK677 and HGH are very synergistic. Yes I'd do the same. What's nice about MK677 is its one oral dose daily, that's what I switch to when I get sick of pinning.

So would u just dose the mk677 15min prior to gh dosing? Would u split up the mk677 dosing into 2 if u were dosing gh twice a day or just stick to a once a day dosage still?

 

[RamboStallone]

So would u just dose the mk677 15min prior to gh dosing? Would u split up the mk677 dosing into 2 if u were dosing gh twice a day or just stick to a once a day dosage still?

No need to do that with MK677. I'd personally take the HGH in the AM and MK677 prebed. MK677 has a long half life, so its active for around 24hrs. One dose is all that is needed and it's timing is not critical. I dose prebed to avoid the hunger and lethargy sides.

 

[Nutpuncher]

Level with me bros. Is it worth the $$$ - its one thing ive been kicking around for a long time. I was going to try and then got scammed by Badger. So ive put off. so many variables and so many fakes. Just wondering an honest opinion its its worth it - not jacking your thread man- just curious

Oh man...why did you have to bring up badger (just kidding my friend) as it brought back memories of my 1st time getting scammed.

I am sure your question has already been answered.... My opinion is Yes, HGH is worth it especially if your older and naturally produce below normal IGF-1 like myself. Check out my thread "about nutpuncher" and you can see how my body morphed into what it is today. I started HGH on 4/26 and noticed the HGH magic roughly end of 3-4 months later....and keeps getting better.

I honestly think GH is overrated.

Ironman, run the ipam bro it will be beneficial. I love ipam cuz it guves no sides. The lethargy and hypoglycemia from the stronger peps kicks my ass sometimes. Make sure to use a ghrh such as cjc (mod) with ipam since it's a weaker ghrp.

I respectfully disagree with you [MENTION=691]RamboStallone[/MENTION]. Its overrated if your not using high quality generic HGH or pharma HGH for at least 4 months, but the longer the better. Next week will be my 6 months HGH anniversary...hopefully with many more anniversaries to come.

I like to use 100mcg T4 and 20mcg of T3 but that's what works for me. I also use fast acting slin while on growth.

I use 150mcg t4 ED, but I'll try t3/t4 combo next to see if I notice anything different. Haven't tried slin (yet), but may try in the future, but not near future because I don't have the time to educate myself on slin at the moment.

Would u do same thing with mk677 dosing

I've been wanting to try MK677, but I don't think it'll be effective for me because my natural IGF-1 is so low that my TRT doc wouldn't prescribe me Sermorelin.

No need to do that with MK677. I'd personally take the HGH in the AM and MK677 prebed. MK677 has a long half life, so its active for around 24hrs. One dose is all that is needed and it's timing is not critical. I dose prebed to avoid the hunger and lethargy sides.

Do you think MK667 would benefit me even though my natural IGF-1 is so low?

 

[IronHorse]

I use 150mcg t4 ED, but I'll try t3/t4 combo next to see if I notice anything different. Haven't tried slin (yet), but may try in the future, but not near future because I don't have the time to educate myself on slin at the moment.

If you have a friend that's a diabetic they can fill you in real quick on slin. Basically make sure you take in the proper amount of carbs immediately after you pin the slin. Pin the slin then eat and you can almost feel yourself growing lol. Then 4 hours or so after you pin take in more carbs and you are good to go. I know Pros that take in 3-5iu of growth and 15iu of slin every meal so 6-7 times in a 24 hour period. I also use pharma grade Pfizer human grade growth hormone no generics.

 

[RamboStallone]

[MENTION=178]Nutpuncher[/MENTION] MK677 releases endogenous HGH over a dozen times a day. So yes it would increase GH serum levels as well as circulating IGF levels if the GH is properly converted in the liver. I guess it depends on why your natural IGF is low? If exogenous HGH works to increase your IGF levels then so will MK677.

 

[Nutpuncher]

I use 150mcg t4 ED, but I'll try t3/t4 combo next to see if I notice anything different. Haven't tried slin (yet), but may try in the future, but not near future because I don't have the time to educate myself on slin at the moment.

If you have a friend that's a diabetic they can fill you in real quick on slin. Basically make sure you take in the proper amount of carbs immediately after you pin the slin. Pin the slin then eat and you can almost feel yourself growing lol. Then 4 hours or so after you pin take in more carbs and you are good to go. I know Pros that take in 3-5iu of growth and 15iu of slin every meal so 6-7 times in a 24 hour period. I also use pharma grade Pfizer human grade growth hormone no generics.

Cool, thank for the quickest and easiest way to explain slin to me, but I do understand that I need to dial in the carbs to slin ratio and more research before trying slin.

[MENTION=178]Nutpuncher[/MENTION] MK677 releases endogenous HGH over a dozen times a day. So yes it would increase GH serum levels as well as circulating IGF levels if the GH is properly converted in the liver. I guess it depends on why your natural IGF is low? If exogenous HGH works to increase your IGF levels then so will MK677.

cool, good to know, thank you. Now, I just need to figure out where to get it from....but that won't be for a while as I am already too busy to even search for reliable source MK677. I am not sure why I am deficient on HGH....If I was to guess, I'd say that 10 years of opiate abuse is the root cause....that was/is the case for my natural low T.

 

[gh0st]

Level with me bros. Is it worth the $$$ - its one thing ive been kicking around for a long time. I was going to try and then got scammed by Badger. So ive put off. so many variables and so many fakes. Just wondering an honest opinion its its worth it - not jacking your thread man- just curious

worth every penny if u do ur rersearch and get legit stuff. there is only a couple brand i would use at this time! Use a min of 2.5iu per day! IF U CAN GET THE QUALITY GENRICS. i dont undertand why guys are paying extra and getting ripped off on top of it when the real deal sources are here and everywhere and are not hard to find! GO INT !