01dragonslayer
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....just curious as to what anabolic/hormone you guys will never include into a cycle again and why?
What Anabolics Will You Never Cycle Again?
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xxplosive
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Tren.... no, its not worth the benefits. I dont know how many people Ive spoken to who have done irreparable damage to friendships, relationships, work relations on this. Myself included.
Yes, there are safer alternatives:
Primo
Superdrol
Anavar
1-Test Cyp (though I havent tried myself)
I dont wanna hear "omgz, sdrol is soooo toxic" - I was shitting blood, couldnt get out of bed and flat out suicidal on tren.
But if youre one of the lucky few who get no sides, more power to you.
Yes, there are safer alternatives:
Primo
Superdrol
Anavar
1-Test Cyp (though I havent tried myself)
I dont wanna hear "omgz, sdrol is soooo toxic" - I was shitting blood, couldnt get out of bed and flat out suicidal on tren.
But if youre one of the lucky few who get no sides, more power to you.
testboner
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Good / Fun question, Dragon.
I don't think I'll use Drol again. Why? It just doesn't favor my system well. I get water bloat and not much else (and I've used multiple legitimate drol throughout 30yrs time including pharm). I don't feel good on it, though I've used it quite a lot. I'm finally just done with it at my old ass age of 51.
The 2nd compound I won't use again is oral tren (Methyltrienolone). Jdog (do you remember him?) had insanely potent oral tren caps way back (10-12+yrs ago or so) that I used a few cycles of, and it was the most mindbending strength gainer EVER. But it's sides were a MOFO! Felt like absolute shit taking it preworkout and walking into the gym... start training, and all of a sudden, King Kong strength would come from nowhere. It was the craziest experience -- had to force myself into the gym and just start lifting.... then it would fucking hit like rocket engines. Outside of training, I had the worst insomnia, gerd, and flu like symptoms I've ever had from anything else. Since Jdogs caps, I tried several injectables and a couple oral versions and nothing replicated the effects (positive nor negative) that his did. Won't try any anymore.
Clen: Won't use it anymore. Fucks with me too much. I get wicked neck cramps regardless what supps I use alongside it, low back cramps, and heart feel like shit. FUCK CLEN from now on for me.
Methyltestosterone: Waste. 30+ years ago I use to buy bottles of it in Tj, MEX (when shit was legit in Mex... Duchaine days) for cheap, stuff it in my crotch walking back across the border with buddies on the weekends after partying. Got some wicked bitchtitties off it
Test Suspension: Very effective for fast size and strength gains, but painful and not a fan anymore of frequent injects. It also no longer fits into my training style and purpose.
I don't think I'll use Drol again. Why? It just doesn't favor my system well. I get water bloat and not much else (and I've used multiple legitimate drol throughout 30yrs time including pharm). I don't feel good on it, though I've used it quite a lot. I'm finally just done with it at my old ass age of 51.
The 2nd compound I won't use again is oral tren (Methyltrienolone). Jdog (do you remember him?) had insanely potent oral tren caps way back (10-12+yrs ago or so) that I used a few cycles of, and it was the most mindbending strength gainer EVER. But it's sides were a MOFO! Felt like absolute shit taking it preworkout and walking into the gym... start training, and all of a sudden, King Kong strength would come from nowhere. It was the craziest experience -- had to force myself into the gym and just start lifting.... then it would fucking hit like rocket engines. Outside of training, I had the worst insomnia, gerd, and flu like symptoms I've ever had from anything else. Since Jdogs caps, I tried several injectables and a couple oral versions and nothing replicated the effects (positive nor negative) that his did. Won't try any anymore.
Clen: Won't use it anymore. Fucks with me too much. I get wicked neck cramps regardless what supps I use alongside it, low back cramps, and heart feel like shit. FUCK CLEN from now on for me.
Methyltestosterone: Waste. 30+ years ago I use to buy bottles of it in Tj, MEX (when shit was legit in Mex... Duchaine days) for cheap, stuff it in my crotch walking back across the border with buddies on the weekends after partying. Got some wicked bitchtitties off it
Test Suspension: Very effective for fast size and strength gains, but painful and not a fan anymore of frequent injects. It also no longer fits into my training style and purpose.
Muscle mechanic
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My too. Today I am calm as can be on tren and I had the mental crap too....
But I lower test when sides start!
My bp is perfect on tren!!
As a not to run again???
Or ever, all I can say is I don't use toxic things and the so so toxic things i use at low doses for min times.
All Steroids have a positive benifit I like used at correct doses per individual!!!
Or correct combos of roids to offset!!!
Things like M-tren I never used and will not!! Cheek drops either.
Winny low dosed for 2 weeks only.
Anadrol I like but only at 50mg a day.
But Superdrol not worth benifit with Anadrol 50mg a day for me!!!
So that is my take...
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01dragonslayer
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Ditto here...superdrol, adrol,...make me like crap.
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I wont try tren. I already have insomnia, gerd, anxiety, etc. Tren just sounds plain awful for someone like me at least...
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For me it's sustanon. My body just doesn't respond well to the mix of esters. I've tried it a few times and I get almost instant gyno symptoms every time. I've used test suspension while on a long ester test cycle with no issues either...I'm not sure why but it's enough to tell me to stay away...
Also clen. That shit had me scared I was going to have a heart attack or seizure too many times. Alongside t3 it just melted the fat off me so i use to use it anyway but now at 33 no way in hell would I touch it...
Also clen. That shit had me scared I was going to have a heart attack or seizure too many times. Alongside t3 it just melted the fat off me so i use to use it anyway but now at 33 no way in hell would I touch it...
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For me probably Deca and Tren.
Deca just gives me mental fog at 600mg and the gains aren't that substantial to justify using it- no different than a decent test dose, but less so than test+dbol. I didn't get any ED maybe slightly lowered libido is all.
Tren Ace- I didn't even last two weeks at 50mg eod. From the first pin I felt like it slowed me down, felt tired, couldn't think clearly either and my dick nearly died while on it, no rock hard boners to be seen until my third day off of it. I know you can take caber and all that shit but personally that's just too much stuff to have to take, I'm already using A-dex/Aromasin, Nolva and HCG. I'm steering clear of 19-nors from now on. Gonna try EQ next. Right now I'm on 300mg of test and 50mg Dbol and am loving it and responding better to it than anything else I've used and I feel great.
Deca just gives me mental fog at 600mg and the gains aren't that substantial to justify using it- no different than a decent test dose, but less so than test+dbol. I didn't get any ED maybe slightly lowered libido is all.
Tren Ace- I didn't even last two weeks at 50mg eod. From the first pin I felt like it slowed me down, felt tired, couldn't think clearly either and my dick nearly died while on it, no rock hard boners to be seen until my third day off of it. I know you can take caber and all that shit but personally that's just too much stuff to have to take, I'm already using A-dex/Aromasin, Nolva and HCG. I'm steering clear of 19-nors from now on. Gonna try EQ next. Right now I'm on 300mg of test and 50mg Dbol and am loving it and responding better to it than anything else I've used and I feel great.
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Cheque Drops, use to use them back 10 years ago when Supra was the only UG supplying them, would not touch them again toxicity being a major concern and they are the only compound that truly fucks with your mind, the aggression is on you before you know it...
Tren I try to stay away from because I have sleep issues already, it's not worth the lack of sleep, can't make good gains if your not getting enough sleep to repair the broken down muscle fibers...
Tren I try to stay away from because I have sleep issues already, it's not worth the lack of sleep, can't make good gains if your not getting enough sleep to repair the broken down muscle fibers...
Kinda want to try these drops now, noone even has them anymore
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PUMPED
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I have seen them on a few lists recently on some of the sources on this board, just check around, they are making a comeback again.
I used to use them back when I was training heavy into mma, now much later in life now with a family they suit no purpose
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Bro, try it. I can't seem to come off it. Just find a dosage with test that works for you.
Will not take any orals period. I have several ulcers in my esophagus and orals flair them up fast.
Sdrol, shit was like rat poisoning. Could not eat, pissing brown, lethargic as fuck, bp head aches, awful.
Clen. Cramps so bad I was trying to walk out to the car to drive to the emergancy room bur couldn't. This happened multiple times.
Winny, joint pain that was a never ending throbbing pain.
Methyl tren, dick dead on arrival.
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