Summer Recomp Stack

[xxplosive]

Suggestions and input appreciated... Im not trying to get crazy complex here.

I am currently off cycle and looking to recomp on the cutting side.

Current Stats:

35 years
5'10
227.5 lbs
~11% bf

I am gonna run:

Test P - 225mg
Primo E - 600mg
1-Test Cyp - 600mg
Tbol - 25mg ed
Winstrol 50mg ed
Adex .5mg eod

Goal is 230 lbs and 8%.

Doable?

 

[01dragonslayer]

I don't see why not. Keep diet in check and your good ta go. How long you gonna run it?

Have you thought about maybe adding a little mast too.

 

[Quix99]

Im a huge fan of the dorian olympia stack:
test p-300g
primo-500mg
tren a- 250mg ( he used parabolan)
anavar -50mg
all great compounds, low aromotization. Toss some helios in there, look like a sexy bitch. I remember you saying you dont like alot of test, i dont either. I finally listened to some dudes and ran a higher tren to test ratio...sides are a TON less..for me..than a higher test lower tren. What you are lookin to do isnt crazy, you got that shit man.

 

[Thaistick]

I'm curious to see how you like the primo and DHB together. I've done both but not at the same time. I do prefer the primo though. The DHB sweating is ridiculous. I don't see any reason to add masteron as suggested, but to each his own.

 

[Kins]

I don't think I'd run Primo and DHB together. Either or, just because it seems like overkill and will cost you more money. I wouldn't add anything at all. Might get rid of the Test Cyp and just run the Prop for test at a higher dosage. Also wouldn't run two different orals in one cycle. Didn't see you layout the timing at all though.

 

[xxplosive]

I don't see why not. Keep diet in check and your good ta go. How long you gonna run it?

Have you thought about maybe adding a little mast too.

I HAVE... and am still considering it. I don't like to get way too wild with diff compounds, 3 is a lot, but masteron would sure ice the cake.

 

[xxplosive]

Im a huge fan of the dorian olympia stack:
test p-300g
primo-500mg
tren a- 250mg ( he used parabolan)
anavar -50mg
all great compounds, low aromotization. Toss some helios in there, look like a sexy bitch. I remember you saying you dont like alot of test, i dont either. I finally listened to some dudes and ran a higher tren to test ratio...sides are a TON less..for me..than a higher test lower tren. What you are lookin to do isnt crazy, you got that shit man.

There is a solid chance i sub tbol for var... But i just can't do tren. Its too much. Id rather break bread on much higher primo dose if anything.

More power to those who can run tren and not want to jump in front of a truck.

 

[xxplosive]

I don't think I'd run Primo and DHB together. Either or, just because it seems like overkill and will cost you more money. I wouldn't add anything at all. Might get rid of the Test Cyp and just run the Prop for test at a higher dosage. Also wouldn't run two different orals in one cycle. Didn't see you layout the timing at all though.

Get rid of 1-Test Cyp for higher dose test prop? Makes no sense. I wont go higher than that much test, i bloat like a mofo.

I am curious why you feel primo + dhb is over kill.

From what i gather, although similiar, dhb offers more in size/fat burning where primo makes you euphoric, has anti e properties and gives better polish.

I am gonna run this from either April - September or May - September if i can show some self control lol.

Last time i was on for 2.5 years straight.

 

[ranger134]

Suggestions and input appreciated... Im not trying to get crazy complex here.

I am currently off cycle and looking to recomp on the cutting side.

Current Stats:

35 years
5'10
227.5 lbs
~11% bf

I am gonna run:

Test P - 225mg
Primo E - 600mg
1-Test Cyp - 600mg
Tbol - 25mg ed
Winstrol 50mg ed
Adex .5mg eod

Goal is 230 lbs and 8%.

Doable?

I would drop 1test and go 1000mg primo also drop winstrol.. the way it dries out joints and ligaments you just asking for torn bicep. Add a good reliable anavar instead

 

[Quix99]

There is a solid chance i sub tbol for var... But i just can't do tren. Its too much. Id rather break bread on much higher primo dose if anything.

More power to those who can run tren and not want to jump in front of a truck.

i hear that man. Its a rough compound if you cant handle the mental side of it. Cbd has helped me a TON with that, but idk if i would ever break 300mg a week on it. But going back to your proposed stack..love the primo. Pricey, but its just great. Ran d’s ace in the summer at 300mg a week and was phenominal. Most of the benefits of tren, without the tren issues

 

[Quix99]

I HAVE... and am still considering it. I don't like to get way too wild with diff compounds, 3 is a lot, but masteron would sure ice the cake.

I personally dont like mast as much as proviron. Proviron at 100mg a day is killer man. Make sure you have a girl who wants to fuck allday long too

 

[01dragonslayer]

I personally dont like mast as much as proviron. Proviron at 100mg a day is killer man. Make sure you have a girl who wants to fuck allday long too

Ha man....forgot about proviron. That would be an awesome addition as well.

 

[xxplosive]

I personally dont like mast as much as proviron. Proviron at 100mg a day is killer man. Make sure you have a girl who wants to fuck allday long too

I just might.... Is proviron liver toxic?

 

[01dragonslayer]

I just might.... Is proviron liver toxic?

Proviron is one of the few oral steroids that is not carbon 17 alpha alkylated or liver toxic. You can run it for a long time without issues.

It will adversely affect your lipids possibly significanyly(dose dependent). It has a tendency to lower good cholesterol(HDL).

 

[Quix99]

Proviron is one of the few oral steroids that is not carbon 17 alpha alkylated or liver toxic. You can run it for a long time without issues.

It will adversely affect your lipids possibly significanyly(dose dependent). It has a tendency to lower good cholesterol(HDL).

yea, what he said. I feel its one of the most overlooked compounds out there. The benefits it has to reduce estrogen, and unbind the shbg to increse the free test levels make it great. Wont harden you up like crazy, but i feel it does more than masteron. I ran d’s proviron at 100mg for 12 weeks on top of a 500mg test/500mg eq cycle and it was awesome. Best cycle i ever ran

 

[Kins]

Get rid of 1-Test Cyp for higher dose test prop? Makes no sense. I wont go higher than that much test, i bloat like a mofo.

I am curious why you feel primo + dhb is over kill.

From what i gather, although similiar, dhb offers more in size/fat burning where primo makes you euphoric, has anti e properties and gives better polish.

I am gonna run this from either April - September or May - September if i can show some self control lol.

Last time i was on for 2.5 years straight.

No I would get rid of DHB in place of Primo. They both have similar effects and both are pretty expensive, so I'd pick one of them and run whichever you pick higher than you'd normally run it on your own. Another reason to not run them together is if you haven't run one of them by themselves than you may not be able to distinguish what is doing what.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Heres a great read. Muscle Mechanic has some awesome input.

https://hardcore-underground.com/showthread.php/10275-1-test-cyp-users?highlight=dhb+in+stock

 

[xxplosive]

Proviron is one of the few oral steroids that is not carbon 17 alpha alkylated or liver toxic. You can run it for a long time without issues.

It will adversely affect your lipids possibly significanyly(dose dependent). It has a tendency to lower good cholesterol(HDL).

Besides heart health, what effects does lowering HDL have? Does it affect fat loss/muscle gain?

Or is it strictly a long term health thing?

 

[xxplosive]

yea, what he said. I feel its one of the most overlooked compounds out there. The benefits it has to reduce estrogen, and unbind the shbg to increse the free test levels make it great. Wont harden you up like crazy, but i feel it does more than masteron. I ran d’s proviron at 100mg for 12 weeks on top of a 500mg test/500mg eq cycle and it was awesome. Best cycle i ever ran

Sounds very interesting. 25mg of even Bayer Proviron didn't do much for me... 100mg might be fun to try.

Is it good to run as a bridge through next cycle during and after pct?

 

[Gymrattt1]

Suggestions and input appreciated... Im not trying to get crazy complex here.

I am currently off cycle and looking to recomp on the cutting side.

Current Stats:

35 years
5'10
227.5 lbs
~11% bf

I am gonna run:

Test P - 225mg
Primo E - 600mg
1-Test Cyp - 600mg
Tbol - 25mg ed
Winstrol 50mg ed
Adex .5mg eod

Goal is 230 lbs and 8%.

Doable?

Brother! You just PM'd me on the 31st saying that you were taking my advice and going to come off finally after over 20 /25 weeks or longer and complaining about adrenal fatigue and I confirmed that your liver is stressed! And possibly your kidneys!, Anavar is a c17 but few bb are aware that it is metabolized inside the kidneys not the liver(the only c17 oral steroid that has this effect) Kidney function (GFR) drops 10% in most blood tests. The primo (enanthate ester) will take 30days to metabolize fully and you said that your last shot was 5 days prior so around Feb 26 the primo will clear!!, and be considered off cycle. Brother I give advice and (design cycles to many pro bb and professional athletes). Go get your blood work like I told you and get checked out! I can assure you that you lipids are a mess,your liver enzymes are high, you need several months off!. Starting another cycle in April is a bad idea that would be actually only one month clean!!. especially without blood work. Running Primo and DHB isn't a bad idea!, they are almost exactly the same compound, only being 1 methyl molecule difference!, results are almost the same and as long as the money isn't an issue that's cool! Running 225mg of test shouldn't over shadow the PRIMO and DHB. Then you have the Winstrol and Tbol both are c17 methylation and are liver toxic and your liver is stressed as we speak!!!.(I advised you no ORALS next cycle and not only did you not take my advice your planning on adding 2 methylated orals! Seriously ) Winstrol is absolutely the worst oral compound in regards to HDL. When I review pro bb bloods( and I see over 30 in my clinics) I can look across my desk and tell them you've been running Winstrol haven't you! And they say "how do you know that" !, because their HDl is in single digits or non existent!. Bro trust me when I say you're asking for trouble!! Go get your bloods. Get your liver detoxed and bring your lipids back to normal!!! Double x I like you your a good brother!!, but you have the symptoms of male steroid dependency!! (you may not be but you have all the symptoms ) and I'm not just giving you advice I'm speaking to the brotherhood on this forum who is reading this thread and hopefully won't make the same mistakes) the proper protocol has to be set by someone with experience. Your cortisol is extremely high from the long metabolic stressed cycle and as we speak the cortisol is consuming any new muscle you have added Its what cortisol does when the body is stressed from central nervous system overload and takes several months for cortisol to get normal!! At the soonest I would start would be June (90 days)(March, April, May) off gear and definitely no ORALS!! Trust me brother! I give advice to professionals and bb far more advanced than you!! Bad idea with two liver toxic compounds (any without blood test confirmation liver and kidney function is normal ) and much to soon especially after a long run(20/25 weeks) with no bloods! Come on brother be smart!! Your health is more important than what maybe a pound or two of lean muscle if you are lucky!! And after all that gear how much did you really gain honestly. At 35 your at the age for heart disease and heart enlargement (from gear, long cycles, diet, lifestyle, and heavy lifting) and much more!. (Bro I'm 292lbs and run half the gear, for a quarter of the time!!) When was your last echo of your heart or if ever!! Even my elite pro bb patients don't run long cycles back to back without blood work and 6 months off because they have learned to up regulate their receptors! and they are pro's and must put their health on the line to make a living. Like I said xx I like you brother but your reckless approach is futile. The main point I'm trying to make is you need to get blood work after long cycles at least once per year and take longer time for your body to heal properly I speak with knowledge and experience, my advice is lucid and dead on balls accurate! , your a veteran member who should use proper protocol and set a good example for the less experienced brothers!
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