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Donkeykong

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Anyone use Modafinil or Adrafinil??? Im buying some for myself and some buddies and Im looking for one that helps with focus but gives a nice energy burst.. Should I go with racetams or something more like moda or adrafinil??
 
Heres a good read....

Adrafinil vs Modafinil — Which Smart Drug Is Better?


These are two of the most popular cognitive enhancement drugs available today with considerable benefits recorded for speed of cognition, memory, productivity and general alertness.

Those of us with superior intelligence, drive, focus, and other mental powers have a distinct advantage in almost every area of life and business. As work and academic environments become even more competitive, the edge that these kind of nootropics provide is becoming increasingly sought-after.

So which is the best Eugeroic drug to use – Adrafinil vs. Modafinil? Adrafinil and Modafinil offer very similar effect, but there are some key distinctions between the two in terms of mechanism of action, side effects and most notably legal status. It might be helpful to take a closer look at the effects of each in an effort to determine if one really is better than the other.
Adrafinil
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How It Works:

Converted into Modafinil by the liver
Increases energy, wakefulness & motivation
Boosts mental performance & focus

Dosage:
Between 300 - 1,200 mg per day
Safety:
Some Reported Side Effects


Adrafinil Benefits:

Related Topics

What is Adrafinil?
What is Modafinil?
What is Armodafinil?
Adrafinil Dosages
Benefits & Effects
Side Effects


The original clinical purpose of Adrafinil was to help those who have sleep problems.

It is currently being used in many parts of Europe as a useful treatment for narcolepsy and sleep apnea.

One of the most pronounced benefits is the ability to help people normalize sleep patterns. It also is effective as an agent promoting wakefulness and alertness.

Many users also seem to experience a higher level of energy from this supplement. This is most likely due to the fact that it works by increasing the presence of the neurotransmitter Hypocretin. This brain chemical actually controls how alert and awake a person will feel.

Additionally, there are increased levels of other neurotransmitters called catecholamines that also contribute to a higher energy level. These neurotransmitters are involved in the adrenergic systems of the brain and can promote higher levels of awareness, physical stamina and most importantly focus and attention span.

Mood is also generally improved while using Adrafinil. This is caused by an increase in the levels of Dopamine and Serotonin within the brain. Both of these neurotransmitters are involved in the sensation of pleasure and can reduce levels of stress, fatigue, and anxiety.

As your mood and general level of well-being improves, this may also lead to enhanced motivation and the ability to get more things done. This is why many people say that Adrafinil is an excellent productivity promoter.

While Adrafinil is usually thought of as only having stimulant-like effects related to energy and mood, there are also some cognitive changes that occur as well. Adrafinil is also capable of stimulating Glutamate receptors in the brain. As Glutamate receptors are stimulated and their pathways activated, this supplement increases memory and may also improve the speed of recall.

Of course, the strength of this effect will vary from person to person, but most people will experience this at least to some extent. Many students also report that they find it much easier to learn and study with even small Adrafinil dosages. This is why Adrafinil is commonly used as a study pill, in addition to helping you stay awake for all-night cram sessions before an important exam.

Modafinil Benefits:

adrafinil modafinil comparisonModafinil works in ways that are essentially similar to Adrafinil – although it is known to be a bit faster acting and it lasts slightly longer.

In fact, both substances were developed by the same company for the purpose of promoting wakefulness and alertness. This is why the primary medical use of Modafinil is in treating sleep disorders or excessive daytime fatigue.

It is also considered to be a central nervous system stimulant. As such it is also capable of increasing overall energy levels, both physical and mental.

It has been shown that this increase in energy will enable a healthy adult (not likely someone with already existing significant sleep problems) to stay awake and relatively alert for as much as 40 hours. Of course, you will need to catch up on sleep as the supplement wears off.

The cognitive effects are also similar to those listed for Adrafinil. These include improved memory and recall speed as well as a possible increase in learning capacity. Attention span is also expanded and so are the ability to concentrate and focus. Many people report that it is also easier to engage in common tasks like reading, writing, talking, and giving presentations.

The stimulant feeling resulting from this supplement is one of smoothness when compared to drugs like caffeine and other amphetamines. In other words, you experience a consistently higher energy level rather than a spike and burn-out with more traditional central nervous system stimulants.
Adrafinil Side Effects:

Most of the supplements that we think of a nootropics are entirely side-effect free with great potential to actually improve the long-term health of the brain. This is unfortunately not the case with Adrafinil – while it is considered safe at recommended dosage levels for short-term use, there are some potential side effects.

These include headaches, which can normally be eliminated by adding a quality Choline supplement (Alpha GPC) to your routine. You also may notice other symptoms like nervousness, fatigue, or intestinal issues. If taken at high doses it is also possible to see increased blood pressure and even heart issues. The way to avoid most of these is to never take more than the recommended dose.

Another risk associated with extensive Adrafinil use is the development of liver problems. Once again, this is not a result typical of short-term usage and is normally only seen when excessive doses are used. In such situations, Adrafinil has been shown to increase certain enzymes which are known to cause liver damage.

When taken at the proper levels by healthy individuals, however, the risk of any side effects is minimal. If you have a history of liver problems or are taking any other drugs or supplements that are known to be harsh on the liver, you should definitely speak to a doctor before using this compound.

Modafinil Side Effects:

What about Modafinil? The side effects of Modafinil are almost exactly the same as those listed for Adrafinil. Some people experience headaches, nausea, fever, stomach discomfort, or in rare more serious cases certain skin conditions such as SJS, TEN and DRESS.

The risk is certainly something that needs to be weighed and you should consult with a medical professional before taking this drug. Like Adrafinil, Modafinil is regarded as safe in small dosages for short periods of time and it is widely used by many people who never experience these side effects.

What about the potential for liver problems? Here we see that Modafinil is quite a bit safer than Adrafinil for long-term use. The reason for this has to do with the fact that Modafinil is not metabolized by the liver in the same way that Adrafinil is.

In fact, when Adrafinil reaches your liver, the enzymes present actually convert this drug into Modafinil. It is this conversion process which puts stress on the organ and may lead to hepatoxicity. Because Modafinil does not get converted in the same way, it does not come with the same risk of side effects. As such, Modafinil may be safer than Adrafinil in the long-run.

Modafinil vs. Adrafinil

The main differences between Modafinil versus Adrafinil are in regards to the potential for side effects and the potency and speed at which they are effective.

Modafinil is safer on the liver and is faster acting once it has been ingested. However, Adrafinil is legal in the USA while Modafinil requires a prescription. These are all important considerations to weigh when looking into Adrafinil vs. Modafinil.

In fact, you may eventually decide to use a completely different supplement like Phenylpiracetam or Pramiracetam which can also boost energy levels with less risk of side effects.

Ideally, you should speak to your doctor before acquiring either Modafinil or Adrafinil and make sure you follow the recommended safe dosage guidelines. It is also a good idea to use these drugs only on an occasional basis or cycle them rather than using
them as part of your daily nootropic stack.
 
I'm prescribed Armodafinil at 150mg daily. Its a nice clean pick me up for a few hours. I'd compare it to taking a 15mg xr addy
 
thanks bros...neone with any racetam experience?

Been using these as of late,

https://smartpowders.com/products/h...-matter-120-cap-amazing-new-nooptropic-stack/

I work midnights so occasionally as a lift , either along with some coffee, or by itself and alot of water.

I've added an extra dmaa cap from Dyel to this, as well as
One Hydroxy elite , an a dmaa cap from Dyel.

Both, good clean energy no crash, and I don't have much problem falling asleep when I need to. If I did, nothing two nice craft beers won't take care of.

But I've taken a liking to the various Nootropics, even
Noopept by itself is decent, but I still.drink coffee, just not as much, or as often as I used to .

Still in the evaluation process, and still experimenting with diff items, pre~work outs. I don't want to whack my cns, and some of these things don't seem to be of much concern there. IMO

MotorCity
 
Good Infos there Dragonslayer,

And, to anyone seeing this, by all means check out that site, if you do use supps, Protien powders, bars etc.

I've gotten some Smoking deals there, and just got there gym bag for like$10.00 , i thought it would be cheesy, junk just to throw a gym towel,. My lifting shoes, and or a pair if shoes to change into etc.


Shit, the damn bag is nice , robust , plenty of space and made if tough materiel kinda like canvass.
 
been using modafinil sparingly the last week or so. Very CLEAN energy imho. Especially compared to adderall. Adderall could be very overpowering at times. Modafinil is different in that aspect. No overpowering energy, just a clean, calm, collected and attentive state of mind for me.
 
been using modafinil sparingly the last week or so. Very CLEAN energy imho. Especially compared to adderall. Adderall could be very overpowering at times. Modafinil is different in that aspect. No overpowering energy, just a clean, calm, collected and attentive state of mind for me.

Yes i love pre/wo sims and ordered some modafinil variant bur going to grab some adrafinil as well... I used adderall one time and didn;t sleep for 2 days..obv use way to much but also made me have bad anxiety lol.. i do FINE on ephedrine,dmaa and caffeine though so really looking forward to a "clean" energy boost for studying and pre/wo
 
I have some private label phentermine that I'm going to try out tomorrow and I'll let y'all know my impressions. Modafinal at 200mg didn't do much for me.
 
Yes i love pre/wo sims and ordered some modafinil variant bur going to grab some adrafinil as well... I used adderall one time and didn;t sleep for 2 days..obv use way to much but also made me have bad anxiety lol.. i do FINE on ephedrine,dmaa and caffeine though so really looking forward to a "clean" energy boost for studying and pre/wo

Phenylpiracetam is by far my favorite.
 
Yes i love pre/wo sims and ordered some modafinil variant bur going to grab some adrafinil as well... I used adderall one time and didn;t sleep for 2 days..obv use way to much but also made me have bad anxiety lol.. i do FINE on ephedrine,dmaa and caffeine though so really looking forward to a "clean" energy boost for studying and pre/wo

LMFAO yea im pretty stim sensitive myself. im the same way i like pres w/o stims too. this definitely gives me the energy i need to power through a work out. nothing drastic and crazy like amps or caffeine tho so those looking for that kind of energy are better off with something else. Took 200 mg this morning before the gym at about 2:15 am and had no problem completing all my lifts WHILE ON PCT lmfao which everyone knows is pure chit lol
 
Tried phentermine for the first time today. It killed my hunger to the point where I had to force myself to eat. Did give me a good sense of 'well being' though...

For my goals I have to eat so I won't be taking anymore but my gf absolutely loved it and got tons of energy and it noticeably improved her mood.
 
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