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I am also interested in this. I have not taken any anabolics since 2005, but looking to get back in the game. About 5 years ago I introduced a buddy to the gym. He was really in soft doughboy shape. He took to it like mad, started supplementing staying natural. Then he found Keto, and blew me out of the water. Dude is so jacked and veiny and has stuck with it for a long time. He always testing urine and really regimented with calories and food intake. He does crazy splurge days with fats and sugars and stays insanely lean doing it. He gets real bitchy sometimes with the calorie swings. And headaches from the fasting. The results are pretty astonishing though.
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