Seth(The Spartan)
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PCT in my opinion is OLD AND OUTDATED. You should never have to even run a PCT, and below I'll state WHY.
The idea of introducing any exogenous androgens into your body, and forcing your natural hormone system to shut down is beyond me. It is so archaic, and quite simply STUPID.
PLEASE READ ENTIRE POST BEFORE COMMENTING!
When I first used AAS (2 years ago, I'm 22yrs now), I decided I would Blast&Cruise. Little did I know I would suffer a whole host of terrible side effects (I'm sure some of you have suffered the same).
A few months into my blast, I noticed some things started happening side effect-wise. Terrible anxiety, the inability to orgasm, mood swings, insomnia, sexual dysfunction. I felt absolutely miserable, and I was miserable!
At this time I decided to talk my doctor who had agreed to monitor me and work alongside me (He was a former college football player, and knew all about steroid use from many of his teammates using).
We tested everything. Nothing out of place or wrong, Estrogen was slightly elevated (he explained its not so much about the numbers, its the RATIO between Test&Estrogen), prolactin, etc. My Testosterone total came back slightly over 4,000ng/ml. I was running close to a gram of test so no surprise there. So nothing wrong or out of place, and he advised that I come off since we had no idea what was wrong. That's what I did, come off! I had been "on" for about 7months, and I decided to go the clomed/nolva route. It was literal HELL. How anyone can take that garbage is beyond me.. I suffered terrible sides and depression like you wouldn't believe. How do I know it wasn't low test related? Because instantly after taking it I felt borderline suicidal. In my opinion Clomed and nolva is terrible anyways, due to the fact It KILLS your IGF-1 Production. AND YES, the clomed&nolva were both pharma grade, and I did try each separately with no difference in side effects.
I right away discontued the clomed/nova. After talking to an actual TRT expert, he pointed out to me that in some people, when their natural production shuts down they suffer the same sides as I do. He explained that LH/FSH are hormones that are VERY important in the male physiology, and actually have receptors throughout the whole body; by shutting down my natural production and depriving myself of LH/FSH hormones, that may be a large reason for the sides. I went on his protocol which he gives out to ANYONE who is on TRT but wants to remain fertile and maintain normal male system functioning. Keep in mind when I started his protocol I WAS on cycle.
The Protocol Recomended To Me:
HCG 500iu's IM injection MWF. For a total of 1500ius per week, While ANY exogenous androgen are present in your system (AAS, SARMS, PROHORMONES ETC). Upon end of cycle, simply discontinue HCG after all compounds have cleared.
Administer Triptorelin 100-200mcg dose at this point, to prime the pituitary gland to immediately recover 100% function immediately!
The pituitary is a gland, same as the testicles. And like such, can atrophy and become unresponsive. However unlike the testicles, it can snap back into normal production right away. The Doc wasn't even aware of Triptorelin until I asked about it. He researched it and came across that famous study, done on a bodybuilder in which it resets normal function(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20416868).
Within a day ALL symptoms subsided (The ability to orgasm took slightly longer to retrieve). My shriveled almond size testicles enlarged to full size after about 3 months.
He explained that, "It's much easier to keep a horse in it's stall, then to chase it down once you let it out".The exact same thing with shutting down our natural production and testicles. Well, I am happy to say I am side effect free, and have been feeling amazing on or off Steroids!
I've been on this protocol for roughly a year, and just finished my last year long AAS cycle, after my bloods came back not so good. Doc recommended a break (LIPIDS AND LIVER).
I recently just finished my "OFF CYCLE" and had been off everything for 9weeks, with everything out of my system. I had gotten everything checked right before I started my next cycle, (I just started 3weeks ago on my next cycle!).
My natural testosterone production came back at a whopping 800ng/ml total testosterone. Which, considering that I'm 250lbs and about 40lbs above my natural weight limit, and means that my natural production would be well over 1000 (normal range) if I was my natural size. So It seems genetically I have a naturally high test production, and this protocol WORKS perfect! No wonder I want to hump everything LOL.
So basically guys, this protocol works amazing! Never do a outdated PCT again, never crash again after your steroids cycle, and you will always feel amazing and good
Hope you all appreciate this post, I put this out here not for my benefit, but for yours! (A video I did on this subject on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnaKPEzDRtQ&t=162s
Let's throw PCT in the trash, once and for all where it belongs! #nomoreshriveledtesticlesgang
The idea of introducing any exogenous androgens into your body, and forcing your natural hormone system to shut down is beyond me. It is so archaic, and quite simply STUPID.
PLEASE READ ENTIRE POST BEFORE COMMENTING!
When I first used AAS (2 years ago, I'm 22yrs now), I decided I would Blast&Cruise. Little did I know I would suffer a whole host of terrible side effects (I'm sure some of you have suffered the same).
A few months into my blast, I noticed some things started happening side effect-wise. Terrible anxiety, the inability to orgasm, mood swings, insomnia, sexual dysfunction. I felt absolutely miserable, and I was miserable!
At this time I decided to talk my doctor who had agreed to monitor me and work alongside me (He was a former college football player, and knew all about steroid use from many of his teammates using).
We tested everything. Nothing out of place or wrong, Estrogen was slightly elevated (he explained its not so much about the numbers, its the RATIO between Test&Estrogen), prolactin, etc. My Testosterone total came back slightly over 4,000ng/ml. I was running close to a gram of test so no surprise there. So nothing wrong or out of place, and he advised that I come off since we had no idea what was wrong. That's what I did, come off! I had been "on" for about 7months, and I decided to go the clomed/nolva route. It was literal HELL. How anyone can take that garbage is beyond me.. I suffered terrible sides and depression like you wouldn't believe. How do I know it wasn't low test related? Because instantly after taking it I felt borderline suicidal. In my opinion Clomed and nolva is terrible anyways, due to the fact It KILLS your IGF-1 Production. AND YES, the clomed&nolva were both pharma grade, and I did try each separately with no difference in side effects.
I right away discontued the clomed/nova. After talking to an actual TRT expert, he pointed out to me that in some people, when their natural production shuts down they suffer the same sides as I do. He explained that LH/FSH are hormones that are VERY important in the male physiology, and actually have receptors throughout the whole body; by shutting down my natural production and depriving myself of LH/FSH hormones, that may be a large reason for the sides. I went on his protocol which he gives out to ANYONE who is on TRT but wants to remain fertile and maintain normal male system functioning. Keep in mind when I started his protocol I WAS on cycle.
The Protocol Recomended To Me:
HCG 500iu's IM injection MWF. For a total of 1500ius per week, While ANY exogenous androgen are present in your system (AAS, SARMS, PROHORMONES ETC). Upon end of cycle, simply discontinue HCG after all compounds have cleared.
Administer Triptorelin 100-200mcg dose at this point, to prime the pituitary gland to immediately recover 100% function immediately!
The pituitary is a gland, same as the testicles. And like such, can atrophy and become unresponsive. However unlike the testicles, it can snap back into normal production right away. The Doc wasn't even aware of Triptorelin until I asked about it. He researched it and came across that famous study, done on a bodybuilder in which it resets normal function(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20416868).
Within a day ALL symptoms subsided (The ability to orgasm took slightly longer to retrieve). My shriveled almond size testicles enlarged to full size after about 3 months.
He explained that, "It's much easier to keep a horse in it's stall, then to chase it down once you let it out".The exact same thing with shutting down our natural production and testicles. Well, I am happy to say I am side effect free, and have been feeling amazing on or off Steroids!
I've been on this protocol for roughly a year, and just finished my last year long AAS cycle, after my bloods came back not so good. Doc recommended a break (LIPIDS AND LIVER).I recently just finished my "OFF CYCLE" and had been off everything for 9weeks, with everything out of my system. I had gotten everything checked right before I started my next cycle, (I just started 3weeks ago on my next cycle
!).My natural testosterone production came back at a whopping 800ng/ml total testosterone. Which, considering that I'm 250lbs and about 40lbs above my natural weight limit, and means that my natural production would be well over 1000 (normal range) if I was my natural size. So It seems genetically I have a naturally high test production, and this protocol WORKS perfect! No wonder I want to hump everything LOL.
So basically guys, this protocol works amazing! Never do a outdated PCT again, never crash again after your steroids cycle, and you will always feel amazing and good
Hope you all appreciate this post, I put this out here not for my benefit, but for yours!
(A video I did on this subject on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnaKPEzDRtQ&t=162s Let's throw PCT in the trash, once and for all where it belongs! #nomoreshriveledtesticlesgang
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