Clomid and nolva, how much and how long
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01dragonslayer
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Research my man. No offense but you can't learn when advise is spoon fed to ya. Education is paramount in this business.
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Will this is a part of my research rite? I've been reading alot on it, now id like to get input on what other guys generally use, then take what I've read and the info I get from this thread and come up with what I think will work best for me...... u can research all u want but sometimes it's best to hear from people who are actually doing or have done what it is u are trying to learn about.
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Come up with a plan including your cycle. Put everything together and post it. Tell us about yourself, age, weight, BF, training experience, dietary habits any previous cycle history. Tell us what you want to achieve with your cycle. We need more info before trying to find what works best for you.
Plus a one time fee of $500 for all the work we are doing for him.
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I down with that. What do ya say we split it Kins?
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LOL! That's actually pretty generous compared to other "bro" bodybuilding gurus you can hire...
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If you'd read on it, you'd know the typical protocols.
Some go crazy and do 300mg the first day, 200mg the 2nd day, then 100mg for 3-4 weeks.
A more standard approach is to do 100mg for 15 days, then 50mg for 15 days.
Some people get blurry vision and moody sides on 100mg, and although it may provide some with more of a "kick" than 50mg, the increased sides aren't worth it.
So the newer approach is to just use 50mg for 30 days, or even 50mg for 15 days, then 25mg for 15 days.
You can even stretch out the second half of the PCT for another 15 days if you aren't producing enough natural T to feel decent - you can actually stay on clomid for up to 3 months before it loses efficacy, such as for fertility purposes.
As far as Nolva - I don't think it's all that great but it does block estrogen receptors but it doesn't provide an "increased" boost in Testosterone that Clomid isn't already doing.
If you ask 10 guys you may get 10 different answers. Type nolva or clomid into google and youll find thread after thread about them. I personally use this
Nolva
40 40 20 20
Clomid
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Clomid kills my estro so i lower it after wk 2. Its really person dependant. So if ur first time use a generic protocol and adjust as necessary. You do need to read a lot of threads so you get a general knowledge of these and how they affect the body and what symptoms to look for that can be attributed to what s wrong
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Nolva
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Clomid
50 50 25 25
Clomid kills my estro so i lower it after wk 2. Its really person dependant. So if ur first time use a generic protocol and adjust as necessary. You do need to read a lot of threads so you get a general knowledge of these and how they affect the body and what symptoms to look for that can be attributed to what s wrong
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Argon Coagulator
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Clomid has a minimal effect on estrogen reduction. I can't imagine what AI would do to you then..
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Honestly bro if you're using deca or tren you should have used some HCG throughout, or atleast at the end of your cycle - even though that's not as effective. You can get it $15-23 from local sponsors here so it's crazy not to use it. Test AND HCG should be the base of every cycle IMO.
A month of PCT should be enough to get you producing some testosterone naturally again - only a blood test will confirm if it worked. A month is a minimum and if you didn't use HCG you may need longer like 6-8 weeks. This isn't an exact science, it's highly "bro-science" based as even actual physicians aren't totally sure what the best protocol is.
Sports doctors like Dr. Randall Mcclain recommend you take HCG at 500iu EOD for atleast 6 weeks before you come off TRT or a cycle, then just come off and use arimidex to control estrogen. He says clomid isn't neccessary and makes most guys including himself feel like shit.
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Also, you're my age (I'm 34) and I can tell you that after being on for around 6 months using Test and Deca at about twice your dosage, using 2 vials of HCG at different points in the cycle, I was shut the hell down when I came off and ran clomid only for maybe 3 weeks because I didn't have enough. I had low libido and some fatigue, so I said fuck that and got on a TRT dose of 125-150mg, stocked up on HCG (running 500iu EOD now) with a bunch of clomid on it's way, so now I feel like I'm ready to come off, now that my balls are firing on both cylinders and I have clomid to keep the fire going once I stop HCG.
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IMO, if you're running 500mg+ of gear for more than 8-10 weeks and you're over 30, you really need to be running HCG throughout the cycle. 250iu twice per week is the bare minimum, but 250iu EOD would be better and 500iu EOD is necessary for the last 6 weeks of your cycle.
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