ADDING TREN E w/NPP

[K. Bone]

Currently running 300mg NPP, 500mg Test weekly. Dbol 50, MK677 30.... daily. About a month in dbol dropping off soon. Can I add Tren E with this cycle. Maybe low dose? I’ve heard good and bad things. Good benefits and bad. If I was to add it even low dose could I benefit at all maybe with the Tren for 10 weeks? Would I need to change anything? Aromasin is 12.5mg EOD. I’m experienced user. I blast and cruise. Any info and suggestions are welcomed in both manners. Beneficial or not? Wasteful? Please comment.


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[Thehogstwrs]

You'll be fine with 250 a week. Just get some caber.

 

[Solocom]

A lot of people will say two 19nors shouldn't be run in the same cycle. I know a lot of people who have done it, and swear by it. As long as you have your caber and are okay with tren sides, you should be okay. I'd keep an eye on blood pressure, lipids, liver values, etc. It would be a good idea to add cardarine and support sups for you organs as well. Personally, I would suggest you keep your dose low, but I firmly believe you don't need a lot of tren to see excellent results.

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[hwntime]

I personally would bridge over from the NPP to the tren with a 2-3 week overlap. For myself, tren far outshines NPP in results, of course with the added sides. But, instead of running 300 NPP and 250 tren, I’d just do 400mg of tren alone and get much better results with lower dosages in my system. The sweet spot for me is 500mg of tren. It’s where I get the best results with semi-minimal sides. Expect the sleep issues and the raised body temp of course.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

A lot of people will say two nandrolones shouldn't be run in the same cycle. I know a lot of people who have done it, and swear by it. As long as you have your caber and are okay with tren sides, you should be okay. I'd keep an eye on blood pressure, lipids, liver values, etc. It would be a good idea to add cardarine and support sups for you organs as well. Personally, I would suggest you keep your dose low, but I firmly believe you don't need a lot of tren to see excellent results.

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You mean 19Nors together...? Nandrolone is Nandrolone
Whether it be Fast Deca (NPP ) , or reg. Ole Nand Decanoate, then I believe there is base ..? & Nand Cyp.

But yes, two 19Nors are frowned upon by some but if Prolactin is kept in check, or at least have Prami/Caber
Dutesteride, or the old school ...? Forgot the compound name, but will edit when comes to mind.

You'd be fine, well most would, as we are all different & metabloize gear different. Just need to prepare for any probable outcome if being adventurous with the gears.

MotorCity

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You mean 19Nors together...? Nandrolone is Nandrolone
Whether it be Fast Deca (NPP ) , or reg. Ole Nand Decanoate, then I believe there is base ..? & Nand Cyp.

But yes, two 19Nors are frowned upon by some but if Prolactin is kept in check, or at least have Prami/Caber
Dutesteride, or the old school ...? Forgot the compound name, but will edit when comes to mind.

You'd be fine, well most would, as we are all different & metabloize gear different. Just need to prepare for any probable outcome if being adventurous with the gears.

MotorCity

Bromocriptine?


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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Bromocriptine?


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Yes, thank you, I believe that is what I was not remembering.

But I "think" there is another.. but I could be thinking of something else it has the tendency to give terrible headaches I believe or did .. I have a bottle , but stashed no where near me, so I can't double ✓✓ until I'm re-united with my stash.

 

[Solocom]

You mean 19Nors together...? Nandrolone is Nandrolone
Whether it be Fast Deca (NPP ) , or reg. Ole Nand Decanoate, then I believe there is base ..? & Nand Cyp.

But yes, two 19Nors are frowned upon by some but if Prolactin is kept in check, or at least have Prami/Caber
Dutesteride, or the old school ...? Forgot the compound name, but will edit when comes to mind.

You'd be fine, well most would, as we are all different & metabloize gear different. Just need to prepare for any probable outcome if being adventurous with the gears.

MotorCity

Yes, that's exactly what I meant! Sorry, I'm in a mental funk with the holidays. Thanks MC.

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[K. Bone]

Thanks guys. My cycle right now is on point. I just have this Tren E 300 left over and I honestly don’t think I’m gonna run anything else for a long while except high test at times. I was getting great results when I was cruising at 100 to 125mg of test. Very happy with my physique but I do go very hard. Lifting is an addiction for me and I love it, it’s saved my life from a much darker life. But I do well with test alone and honestly I love being on cycle it’s great, I feel amazing. So I’m just gonna squeeze all I can out of this one. The most frustrating issue I have is when my levels drop after a cycle I get the most insane acne when i drop to my cruise dose and they are bad really bad. Cystic and huge. They hurt and are full of puss and terrible and I know that just comes with the gear and I happen to be affected badly. But shit. It’s difficult when I have it cause of how bad they hurt too. And it’s usually about 2 to 3 months before it settles. I’ll take any suggestions in that area but I’ve done the “go to dermatologist”’thing and ran antibiotics and all that and creams. Seems almost worse then. But yeah thanks for all the info bros.


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[K. Bone]

You'll be fine with 250 a week. Just get some caber.

What would ya run the caber at if it I chose anywhere from 100 to 250mg a week?

Or anyone, what would ya the caber at? I’ve never run it before with anything. Tren doesn’t really affect me as far as prolactin. Never had any issues before. Didn’t need much AI when I ran last cycle of 500mg Tren and 750mg test a week. Got great results. I ran AI pretty low actually. Thanks


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[Hevi-head]

You probably won’t even need it since the heavier tren cycles didn’t bother you but the typical dosing is .5 milligram twice a week

 

[K. Bone]

That’s what I thought. Just wanted to check.
Thanks very much.


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[K. Bone]

You probably won’t even need it since the heavier tren cycles didn’t bother you but the typical dosing is .5 milligram twice a week

Like I said. Thanks very much.
But dude I just saw your pic and your fucking shredded bro. Well done my friend. How’s your diet? Diet is difficult for me because I love to eat anything pretty much. I usually am ok because I just go hard and burn the calories in the gym, but If there’s any tips to the shredding or any compounds you may suggest I’m all ears brother.


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[Kins]

If I remember correctly [MENTION=48]Hevi-head[/MENTION] follows a low carb diet. At least I think that was him.

 

[Hevi-head]

Like I said. Thanks very much.
But dude I just saw your pic and your fucking shredded bro. Well done my friend. How’s your diet? Diet is difficult for me because I love to eat anything pretty much. I usually am ok because I just go hard and burn the calories in the gym, but If there’s any tips to the shredding or any compounds you may suggest I’m all ears brother.


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Like kins mentioned when I’m really cutting it’s very low carb, moderate fat and high protein. Avatar pic is that diet with test, mast and tren probably some drol or var as well. Not a shit ton of cardio but usually a fast paced walk with the dog first thing in the morning. I’ve been on gh for several years now typically 3.3 iu daily sometimes a little more sometimes less. I’ve cut it back to 2 here lately just to save a few bucks.
I’ve been on metformin now for a little while and it can really help as well. My diet is much looser this time of year. I usually stay pretty lean over the winter too but I seem to be staying leaner, I’m thinking the metformin definitely has something to do with it.

 

[Kins]

Lower carb I've always thought was the best diet. So many benefits. Just difficult to stay on in my opinion.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

*** Can't do the "low-carb" thing, "only" carb cycling

If I allow my carbs to fall below 250-300 I lose, and def flatten out, is what I've discovered.

Killing carbs these days like 400-450 + a day.

Shit, there's got to be 135+ in the overnight oats concoction I've adopted from [MENTION=1298]Roc[/MENTION] alone

Then french toast/pancakes, whole grain bread OatNut
Sweet potatoes , mashed potatoes gotta have em' , or I don't gain

MotorCity /Mad Metabolism

 

[Kins]

*** Can't do the "low-carb" thing, "only" carb cycling

If I allow my carbs to fall below 250-300 I lose, and def flatten out, is what I've discovered.

Killing carbs these days like 400-450 + a day.

Shit, there's got to be 135+ in the overnight oats concoction I've adopted from [MENTION=1298]Roc[/MENTION] alone

Then french toast/pancakes, whole grain bread OatNut
Sweet potatoes , mashed potatoes gotta have em' , or I don't gain

MotorCity /Mad Metabolism

I actually feel better the lower I go on carbs. They definitely mess with my stomach. I have IBS and most carbs seem to just give me more symptoms.

 

[Shoulderday15]

Currently running 300mg NPP, 500mg Test weekly. Dbol 50, MK677 30.... daily. About a month in dbol dropping off soon. Can I add Tren E with this cycle. Maybe low dose? I’ve heard good and bad things. Good benefits and bad. If I was to add it even low dose could I benefit at all maybe with the Tren for 10 weeks? Would I need to change anything? Aromasin is 12.5mg EOD. I’m experienced user. I blast and cruise. Any info and suggestions are welcomed in both manners. Beneficial or not? Wasteful? Please comment.


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I'm running tren ace and npp together both at .75mg a day and test e at 250 a week I've been on this a few months now doing some trial and error if I run the test any higher I start getting sides for me keeping test low has been key I'm also using mk677 10mg a day hgh 2.5 iu was running dbol but dropped it a week ago I almost never use caber using b6p5p a few days a week or as needed has been fine for me I've tried .5 cabar here and there when I would start to not feel horny and it kinda helped some but going up to 1500iu of hcg a week fixed that for me. This has been the best cycle I've had my strength and size has went up like crazy pretty much no sides I sleep fine no night sweats mood is great I hardly sweat in the gym I think that's from the short esters cause when I ran deca before I would pour sweat in the gym so my next experiment is to switch from tren ace and npp to tren e and deca and see how they compare but to really answer your question running them together is amazing lol

 

[xxplosive]

Have ran NPP/Tren together before and they work great synergistically.

If you run reasonable amounts of both you shouldn't have any issues. If you run 600mg of each.... You will probably run into prolactin issues. It's all relative.

With tren, it will come down to how much you can handle the toxicity.

I always recommend taking cranberry extract and drinking apple cider vinegar on tren to keep your adrenal glands intact.